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431brew · 02-24-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HBRunner

Yep, that is what they are saying on the Free The hops website....They amended the original bill to the following:

(c) Not more than 20 gallons of beer, mead, cider, or wine produced under this
section may be removed from the premises where it was produced
and may be transported for personal and noncommercial uses,

but hey it's a start...!

I didn't see anything on the Free the Hops site, so turned to al.com. Yep, it is definitely a start!

Crazytwoknobs · 02-24-2010, 12:19 AM

Congratulations!

20gal seems like a lot to me.

**Gnome** · 02-24-2010, 12:21 AM

Just shut the garage door and brew what you want.

431brew · 02-24-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnome

Just shut the garage door and brew what you want.

That's what we've been doing! I always wondered what my neighbor thought about my last boil-over that made it down the drive. He probably thought I was pissing until he realized that steam does not rise off piss in the summer time.

brewagentjay · 02-24-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by v2comp

20 gallons per homebrewer.......I think that will do, (4) 5 gallon kegs each. thats plenty if you know how to pass it around,.....lol
man, this has taken a long time and a lot of calls. but now I know it can happen for just regular people without using a 30k a year lobbyist......

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/senate/senate.html

go there and type sb153 in search instruments and then view, it will take you to the bill and show you the recorded votes

but it follows the Federal statute of 200 gallons per household if there are 2 or more adults living there and 100 gallons if you live alone.

So I can't find the Bill in full that was passed, but I read that I can brew 100 to 200 gallons a year but only transport 20 gallons for personal use...Right?

v2comp · 02-24-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewagentjay

So I can't find the Bill in full that was passed, but I read that I can brew 100 to 200 gallons a year but only transport 20 gallons for personal use...Right?

1 SB153
2 115176-2
3 By Senator Dixon
4 RFD: Tourism and Marketing
5 First Read: 12-JAN-10
Page 0
1 SB153
2
3
4 ENGROSSED
5
6
7 A BILL
8 TO BE ENTITLED
9 AN ACT
10
11 To permit the production of homebrewed beer, mead,
12 cider, and wine for personal use.
13 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA:
14 Section 1. (a) Notwithstanding any provisions to the
15 contrary, a person who is not prohibited by Section 28-1-5,
16 Code of Alabama 1975, from purchasing, consuming, possessing,
17 or transporting alcoholic beverages due to age may produce
18 beer, mead, cider, and wine for personal and noncommercial
19 uses, in the amounts specified in this section, without
20 payment of taxes or fees and without obtaining a license. The
21 aggregate amount of the beer, mead, cider, and wine permitted
22 to be produced under this section, with respect to any
23 household, shall not exceed the aggregate amounts specified in
24 26 U.S.C §5053(e).
25 (b) Beer, mead, cider, or wine produced under this
26 section may not be sold or offered for sale.
Page 1
1 (c) Not more than 20 gallons of beer, mead, cider,
2 or wine produced under this section may be removed from the
3 premises where it was produced and may be transported for
4 personal and noncommercial uses, including use at organized
5 events, such as homebrewing competitions, tastings, judgings,
6 and craft exhibitions. Organized events involving beer, mead,
7 cider, or wine produced for personal use may be held on the
8 premises of entities licensed under Title 28, Code of Alabama
9 1975, without violating the terms or conditions of licensure.
10 (d) Nothing in this section permits the production
11 of distilled liquors, such as bourbon, whiskey, rum, or vodka,
12 for personal use or otherwise.
13 (e) Nothing in this section permits a person less
14 than 21 years of age to purchase, consume, possess, or
15 transport beer, mead, cider, or wine produced for personal
16 use.
17 (f) Nothing in this section permits the production
18 of beer, mead, cider, and wine in a dry municipality, as the
19 term is defined in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama
20 1975, and, with the exception of wet municipalities, as the
21 term is defined in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama
22 1975, nothing in this section permits the production of beer,
23 mead, cider, and wine in a dry county, as the term is defined
24 in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama 1975.
25 Section 2. This act shall become effective
26 immediately following its passage and approval by the
27 Governor, or its otherwise becoming law.
Page 2
Page 3
1
2
3 Senate
4 Read for the first time and referred to the Senate
5 committee on Tourism and Marketing ............... 12-JAN-10
6
7 Read for the second time and placed on the calen8
dar .............................................. 09-FEB-10
9
10 Read for the third time and passed as amended ...
11 Yeas 13
12 Nays 6
13 Abstaining 1
14
15
16 McDowell Lee
17 Secretary
18
Page

DocBrown · 02-24-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewagentjay

So I can't find the Bill in full that was passed, but I read that I can brew 100 to 200 gallons a year but only transport 20 gallons for personal use...Right?

That's exactly right. After the initial vote, all of us that were listening to the audio turned it off in annoyance and started thinking about what bar to head to tonight to drown our frustrations. It turns out our Senate sponsor went around and tried to alleviate concerns about this bill and came up with a reasonable amendment to make people happy. The amount you're allowed to brew is specified by the federal law. The 20gallon limit is on what you're allowed to transport off the premises at which you brew. Here's the full text:

Quote:

1 SB153
2
3
4 ENGROSSED
5
6
7 A BILL
8 TO BE ENTITLED
9 AN ACT
10
11 To permit the production of homebrewed beer, mead,
12 cider, and wine for personal use.
13 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA:
14 Section 1. (a) Notwithstanding any provisions to the
15 contrary, a person who is not prohibited by Section 28-1-5,
16 Code of Alabama 1975, from purchasing, consuming, possessing,
17 or transporting alcoholic beverages due to age may produce
18 beer, mead, cider, and wine for personal and noncommercial
19 uses, in the amounts specified in this section, without
20 payment of taxes or fees and without obtaining a license. The
21 aggregate amount of the beer, mead, cider, and wine permitted
22 to be produced under this section, with respect to any
23 household, shall not exceed the aggregate amounts specified in
24 26 U.S.C §5053(e).
25 (b) Beer, mead, cider, or wine produced under this
26 section may not be sold or offered for sale.
Page 1

1 (c) Not more than 20 gallons of beer, mead, cider,
2 or wine produced under this section may be removed from the
3 premises where it was produced and may be transported for
4 personal and noncommercial uses, including use at organized
5 events, such as homebrewing competitions, tastings, judgings,
6 and craft exhibitions. Organized events involving beer, mead,
7 cider, or wine produced for personal use may be held on the
8 premises of entities licensed under Title 28, Code of Alabama
9 1975, without violating the terms or conditions of licensure.
10 (d) Nothing in this section permits the production
11 of distilled liquors, such as bourbon, whiskey, rum, or vodka,
12 for personal use or otherwise.
13 (e) Nothing in this section permits a person less
14 than 21 years of age to purchase, consume, possess, or
15 transport beer, mead, cider, or wine produced for personal
16 use.
17 (f) Nothing in this section permits the production
18 of beer, mead, cider, and wine in a dry municipality, as the
19 term is defined in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama
20 1975, and, with the exception of wet municipalities, as the
21 term is defined in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama
22 1975, nothing in this section permits the production of beer,
23 mead, cider, and wine in a dry county, as the term is defined
24 in Chapter 2A of Title 28, Code of Alabama 1975.
25 Section 2. This act shall become effective
26 immediately following its passage and approval by the
27 Governor, or its otherwise becoming law.

v2comp · 02-24-2010, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewagentjay

So I can't find the Bill in full that was passed, but I read that I can brew 100 to 200 gallons a year but only transport 20 gallons for personal use...Right?

oh, and yes on the quantity issue. 20 gallons can be transported, 100 gallons can be brewed per year if you live alone in your household and 200 gallons if you have at least one other adult (over 18) living in your house.

brewagentjay · 02-24-2010, 01:10 AM

Awesome. I'm happy tonight and I got to do two SG readings so two nice 6 oz samples coming my way on top of this news.

H$ll Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

So we all need to have a party only bring less than 20 gallons each to celebrate. I don't have 20 gallons ready to go yet so I'm good on staying under that limit.

200 Gallons a year I think I can do that. If I brew twice a month that's only 120 gallons unless I step up to a 10gallon brew some time.

Now the challenge will be to meet that limit.

twohands · 02-24-2010, 01:24 AM

*sniffle* - I'm no longer a crook...there goes my street cred...

FINALLY!!!!

So we need to plan a party where we all bring less than the allotted 20 gallons to celebrate.