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Old 07-14-2010, 07:59 PM   #141
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Heres the question. Will this law really effect you?? Will the government break in your door and take all of your equipment and homebrew. Will they slap you with some type of fine??

Or is this just another one of those laws thats under the radar that no one really follows.
there have been only a couple of incidents where peoples equipment was taken, and I dont know of any fines, but thats not the point!
I have been to many brew festivals all over the country, and I am always embarassed to say that I live in a State where the consumption of alcohol is considered a sin and "Serves no good purpose" (senator Hank Irwin, 2009 AL)

if you dont live in a state that can host the National Homebrewers Conference, then yeah, it is enforcing itself!

my views on this are simple, if I want to brew a beer and share it with other adults for FREE, I should be able too. if I wanted to sell it, I need to get a license and pay taxes on it.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:01 PM   #142
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I hate to say it and get political. These problems are from the people in congress who are stripping us from our rights. All of the people who are trying to strip us of our right slowly.

The same people who want to totally abolish hand guns all together. The same people who put raise taxes on cigars just because they say "they are unhealthy for you and the environment" so they tax them. The same people who are taxing tanning salons all over the united states...(I don't use tanning salong my GF does)

These republicans you speak of that want home brewing illegal are nothing but fakes. I have the right to do whatever I want with my money. I am not selling it I am making it for my own consumption. Believe me they will find something about homebrewing that is too "dangerous" or "unhealthy" for us. Just like how they somehow banned salt used in cooking in New York city restraunts. These people want control over us... All I say is if you don't like it. Get them voted OUT.

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Old 07-14-2010, 08:04 PM   #143
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if you dont live in a state that can host the National Homebrewers Conference, then yeah, it is enforcing itself!

my views on this are simple, if I want to brew a beer and share it with other adults for FREE, I should be able too. if I wanted to sell it, I need to get a license and pay taxes on it.
I totally agree. Never Ever Ever let religion come between you and politics its nothing but a failure. I am Roman Catholic I brew beer I drink it. I even gave some to my pastor. That is just absolutely rediculous. God will not smite me for drinking beer and sharing it. Drinking beer is not a sin...
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"ron sparks for governor 2010"
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:12 PM   #145
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"ron sparks for governor 2010"
100x this!!!!
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:53 PM   #146
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Wow. Looks like I stirred the pot somehow. Totally didn't mean to.

First. Not saying that I want to tell anybody how to spend their money. Pretty sure we won't be getting any bingo in my neighborhood. But if you want to play bingo, have at it. If you are on welfare (aka spending my money) stay home.

Second. Not sure how this became about religion. We can keep deluding ourselves that the alcohol situation in Alabama is due to religion. The alcohol situation in Alabama is due to outside influences (InBev, the distributors, big beer lobby) and people riding the coat tails of that influence to places of power in our government. Sure they pander to the tea-totallers, but make no mistake it all boils down to dollars.

Third. Vote for Ron Sparks if that is your concience. At least you're voting. But hold your breath and wait for him to help out any homebrew related cause. He is going to be so busy paying back his Casino-Interest backers, he won't have a second to even think about homebrew or brewery modernization.

That is all.
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I hate to say it and get political. These problems are from the people in congress who are stripping us from our rights. All of the people who are trying to strip us of our right slowly.

The same people who want to totally abolish hand guns all together. The same people who put raise taxes on cigars just because they say "they are unhealthy for you and the environment" so they tax them. The same people who are taxing tanning salons all over the united states...(I don't use tanning salong my GF does)
I gotta disagree momentarily with you. These are 2 very different kinds of people who want to take away rights. The Fundamentalist Republicans who want to restrict alcohol & other immoral activities believe they believe they have privileged knowledge of God's views & he told them alcohol & such is bad, so we must restrict it. This is different from some (but not all) Democrats who believe they know what's good for people better than the people do and want to restrict guns & such. It just happens that the Fundamentalist Republicans like to align themselves with Fiscal Republicans (who can be more like Libertarians on moral issues) even though they really are different creatures.

Personally, the fundamentalists scare me more. When people think they have special knowledge of God's wish & the right to impose them on others, often bads things happen like planes get flown into towers.

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Wow. Looks like I stirred the pot somehow. Totally didn't mean to.

First. Not saying that I want to tell anybody how to spend their money. Pretty sure we won't be getting any bingo in my neighborhood. But if you want to play bingo, have at it. If you are on welfare (aka spending my money) stay home.

Second. Not sure how this became about religion. We can keep deluding ourselves that the alcohol situation in Alabama is due to religion. The alcohol situation in Alabama is due to outside influences (InBev, the distributors, big beer lobby) and people riding the coat tails of that influence to places of power in our government. Sure they pander to the tea-totallers, but make no mistake it all boils down to dollars.

Third. Vote for Ron Sparks if that is your concience. At least you're voting. But hold your breath and wait for him to help out any homebrew related cause. He is going to be so busy paying back his Casino-Interest backers, he won't have a second to even think about homebrew or brewery modernization.

That is all.
I dont care if he HELPS homebrewing or any alcohol legislation in the state., I just dont want anyone actually trying to hamper the efforts, and he wont do that.
and yes, you are correct that the established business interests control policy, thats an absolute fact, but the rest is a more a matter of religous morals trying to dictate policy at a higher level, rather than actually making decisions based on whats fiscally and realistically proper for the citizens of the state.
you know, this remended me of something I just saw yesterday on tv., Alabama ranked 43rd on the Quality of Life scale, again, (consistently on the bottom rungs of the ladder) and all the southern states fair poorer than most. I know I have heard Senators and congressmen speak about our wonderful laid back heritage and not wanting to ruin it with MORE access to alcohol. this is where my rants about religion stem.
one of the reasons we as a state continue to rank so poorley against others are these antiquated laws and religous dogma.
for us as a state to prosper, this old antiquated belief the devil is chasing you down every street, has to be put aside. I hear politicians crow about how low our state taxes are, but they fail to mention how our K-12 education funding suffers. locally, last year, we had the chance in two countys, to vote for a 1 cent sales tax increase to build 3 new schools we desperately need, voted it down!
I know im rambling, sorry, but this whole thing pisses me off.
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Anyone living in Alabama who believes religion does not play a role BIG time is fooling himself or herself...............

Look, I have nothing against any religion. I do not agree with most of them. However, this is the United States of America. You have the right to any religion of your choice. However, for some reason most think they have the right to push that religion on to others and that is the part I cannot stand. I know I'm gonna get some flack for that....put the shoe on the other foot say it was another non Christian religion that was influencing politics and think how upset you would be?

We fight over gambling, alcohol, race, and various other things, that do not help any single person in this state. How about they fix things that matter. Our education is amongst the worst in the country. Teachers are near bottom in pay rates. Jobs are hard to find...School employees laid off due no money in that budget. Jefferson County wanted to tax people for a sewer that they do not even use. Taxes do not fix everything. Therefore, each time the state screws up they should increase taxes or tax something new to over come short falls in the budget. Wrong. Come on every single politician in Alabama should be fired and replace with someone who can get the job done.

Okay I will climb off my soapbox for now.
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