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03-28-2009, 07:17 PM
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After Only 4 Batches I have an Investor? WAH?
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Calling me an amateur home brewer is an understatement. Only two beers have been finished and distributed to friends, others are fermenting and bottle conditioning.
One of my buddies wants to give me some of money to start brewing on a larger scale ($500 -$1000). I know it's not a LARGE sum of money but I'm not sure he is taking a wise bet. He obviously does not want a full brewery, he just wants to sell beer to friends. While selling beer w/o a license does seem "exciting", I'm not quite sure it is such a good idea.
I had never thought about trying to make money off my friends for a hobby.
If I took the money could upgrade to all-grain, and maybe larger batch sizes. Then sell beer to friends until I repaid him.
OOOOO maybe even set up a small bar in the garage
Question 1: Should I take the money?
Question 2: Would you/ Should I, have any ethical problems selling to friends?
I am torn on what to do. 
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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03-28-2009, 07:18 PM
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I love making Beer
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Whatever you decide it is a really bad idea to commit a Federal offense. 
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03-28-2009, 07:19 PM
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Whatever you decide it is a really bad idea to commit a Federal offense. 
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Yeah... I don't know about you folks, but spending time in a federal prison just doesn't sound like fun to me.
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I would never use a dead mouse in my beer. It's much better to use live ones. You could probably just steep a dead one, but live ones must be mashed. Actually, smashed and mashed would be best.
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03-28-2009, 07:24 PM
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TABC (texas alcohol and beverage commision) frowns rather severly on this practice
I believe its called "bootlegging"
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Last edited by winzerz; 03-28-2009 at 11:18 PM.
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03-28-2009, 07:31 PM
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The Legal aspects are by far my biggest concern. The risk far out out weigh any reward.
I mostly wanted to play devils advocate and see if anyone made a good argument for.
Many thanks for the input.
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03-28-2009, 07:35 PM
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So don't sell them beer, sell them memberships in a social club or beer admiration society.
Provide the beer absolutely free as a bonus for showing up at club meetings.
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03-28-2009, 07:38 PM
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I don't sell my beer, but I do accept donations and tips. 
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03-28-2009, 07:39 PM
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Your friends can buy your ingredients for you; so you brew for free and then you give them 1/2 of the beer. That's fair and legal.
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03-28-2009, 07:45 PM
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So don't sell them beer, sell them memberships in a social club or beer admiration society.
Provide the beer absolutely free as a bonus for showing up at club meetings.
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there is a club like that in Seattle, the owner got tired of the smoking laws in bars and created his own club. There is no fee to join and no admission just BYOB or make a donation and donate to the club. The only way to get in is word of mouth but once they like you you can go back whenever you want. Since it is a private establishment that is not open to the public they fly under the radar for the man.
It is one of the coolest places I have hung out in.
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03-28-2009, 07:48 PM
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Your friends can buy your ingredients for you; so you brew for free and then you give them 1/2 of the beer. That's fair and legal.
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I'm going to be doing that. My boss is hooked on chocolate stout, so she's going to buy the ingredients for a batch, I'll brew it and we'll split the spoils.
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