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Old 12-30-2011, 06:58 PM   #51
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Well, maybe you'd better explain it to me.


I thought "quintessential product of the industrial age" implied that all these ingredients wouldn't be available through local sources. Luckily In-n-Out is based in California which has a robust agricultural industry that is able to supply everything that goes on a hamburger.
"Local" for In&Out means "within a day's truck ride of a central facility", which I guess makes it depend on your definition of local (and on where the foodstuffs at that facility came from). That aside, I'm pretty sure that even California's vaunted agricultural paradise doesn't produce commercial tomatoes in February.

The point is that there has been no prior time in history that provides raw meat, cheese, tomatoes and lettuce from any source, "local" or otherwise, on every single day in the year.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:22 PM   #52
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PVPPP is plastic as said above and I've always wondered about it. It's crazy effective though.
We recently switched to that at work and silica hydragel, our beer is insanely clear. We centifuge it out and worked with a lab to test it and all seems ok.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:51 PM   #53
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There are so many things out there that minutely increase your chance of cancer, but you'd make yourself miserable trying to dodge it all for that extra 0.004% chance. For example, every small dose of radiation you get is a small chance of cancer. We get plenty of it from the sun, dirt, food we eat, and so on. You can decrease what you get by moving to lower elevation, away from regions with high natural uranium ore, changing your diet to avoid bananas etc. But the cumulative effect of that change is less than what you get from a dental x-ray, or flying across the country on an airliner. And then, all that is just chance! Plenty of people with low risk factors get cancer, plenty of people with high risk dodge it. The fact that you've already had it pretty much wipes out any other consideration. So I'm with the others here. RDWHAHB.

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Old 12-30-2011, 11:54 PM   #54
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If your want to get really healthy, you can become a Level 5 vegan. I hear they don't eat anything that casts a shadow....
My parents are on it and have been for over a year. My Mom has taken high BP meds for the last 30+ years and the doc took her off last month! They are both in there 80's and really in good shape. I think it has more to do with genetics that diet! We have family members that have lived to 100+ drank daily and ate meat every day! LOL

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Old 01-02-2012, 06:44 AM   #55
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We recently switched to that at work and silica hydragel, our beer is insanely clear. We centifuge it out and worked with a lab to test it and all seems ok.
Curious as to why you centrifuge it out? It's been found to be entirely harmless, except for a few extremely rare allergies.... but this is the stuff that pill capsules are made of. A person would have to have never taken a pill before to not know. It's used in a lot of medical applications as well.
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Curious as to why you centrifuge it out? It's been found to be entirely harmless, except for a few extremely rare allergies.... but this is the stuff that pill capsules are made of. A person would have to have never taken a pill before to not know. It's used in a lot of medical applications as well.
I thought it made you a bit ill? Also, we don't filter the beer, so it's also to clean it up nicely as that stuff doesn't drag everything out of suspension to to point where it can be dumped out of the bottom of the tank.
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I believe most capsules are made of gelatin not silica hydrogel, which is a finely divided solid consisting of silicon dioxide. It is used as a dessicant, and in beer it complexes with haze particles, so that they grow bigger and settle out faster.

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nice obscure simpsons reference
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obscure simpsons reference
that's an oxymoron if I ever saw one...
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