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Old 04-11-2013, 09:34 PM   #11
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My beers are going to be judged this weekend, I believe. I hope I get results in time to know whether I should be saving anything before I haul them off to the Southern California Homebrew Festival for mass consumption.

One entry was a nearly 2 year old mead, and another was a lager, so it's not like I have time to rebrew either one. I suppose I might be able to get the lager done in time for a second round entry if I brewed it this weekend.

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Old 04-11-2013, 11:34 PM   #12
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I also got my score sheets back, Seattle.
I don't enter in competitions very often, brewing since 2008 and first time last year on a WA state match got a bronze, felt good.
This year, started with another WA state competition and did a gold and a silver. Even knowing that entries were not many, felt like I may had some chances on the NHC. Scored nothing with 4 entries . Oh well, so many more entries and possibly much higher quality beers. Comfort would come with the valuable feedback from the score sheets. That's where my disappointment is.
In most entries and where I can translate the hand writing, very mixed notes from the judges. On one brew for example, one say coriander is not noticed while the other stated it is perfectly balanced. Also, I wonder how judges evaluate bitterness. My amber ale had, as per calculation, 36 IBU's, late additions + dry hopping, which is within BJCP guidelines for an amber. I got judges saying it needed extra IBU's. Last year's NHC gold for American Amber Ale gives his recipe as having 66 IBU's. Isn't this out of style?
I know, number of available judges are limited and perception vary, but these score sheets doesn't help me much to improve my beers.
Anyways, preparing for the next WA state match in few weeks.

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Old 04-12-2013, 04:10 AM   #13
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Regarding IBUs in Ambers, I judged American Ales in a competition a month or so ago, and got into an argument with my co-judge on that topic. One of the entries we were judging was (IMO) way too hoppy and bitter for the style, but he was contending that there were several recent commercial examples of American Amber that are more bitter, and that the IBUs were in line with those beers. Which was true...the IBUs WERE comparable to those beers.

HOWEVER, none of those beers are commercial examples in the style guidelines, and per the guidelines the beers that are listed are much lower IBU than these other more recent examples. So, anyway I think maybe there are some folks out there whose conception of the style is clouded by a lot of the more recent beers which call themselves American Amber/Red, but which are way more bitter than the BJCP guidelines for that style.

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Old 04-12-2013, 12:28 PM   #14
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They would have filled 1, 2 or 3 in the "Place Awarded" section on the coversheet if you had advanced. That's what we were doing in St. Paul at least.

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Old 04-12-2013, 12:55 PM   #15
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So, if I read it right, there were four regions scored last weekend. It looks like only Washington has returned score sheets so far. Anything to report from KC, St Paul or NY?

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So, if I read it right, there were four regions scored last weekend. It looks like only Washington has returned score sheets so far. Anything to report from KC, St Paul or NY?
I heard KC was scored last weekend, mailed scores this week.
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I believe Atlanta is judging this weekend.

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They would have filled 1, 2 or 3 in the "Place Awarded" section on the coversheet if you had advanced. That's what we were doing in St. Paul at least.
Not necessarily. Last year the Philly region sent the scoresheets back and didn't write in these boxes. I almost drank all the Munich Helles thinking it didn't advance (it did with a silver) and I won a silver at NHC with it.

If your score is higher than a 30, then keep 3 bottles aside until the NHC releases all the results.
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So, if I read it right, there were four regions scored last weekend. It looks like only Washington has returned score sheets so far. Anything to report from KC, St Paul or NY?
The PNW region has their stuff together, and historically have been the ones to get the results out first. They actually posted the results on the Washington homebrewers website, but took it down after a request from the AHA.
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If your score is higher than a 30, then keep 3 bottles aside until the NHC releases all the results.
The rules say you may re-brew the same recipe and send in to the final round IF you progressed. i hope i do progress, as i wasn't happy with that batch, i didn't watch my water lvl to close, so instead of 10 gal, i accidentally made 11 gal. so i got a 30.5 on a watered down ver. of what i expected.

but i have re-brewed it with the right water levels, still in the secondary ... i can hope...

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