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Old 02-28-2013, 04:26 PM   #51
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My first thought was "Holy hell he is going to warp the Sh.. out of that pan", then I saw him use metal utensils in a teflon pan
Mmmm. Nope, that's not teflon.

Woks are usually carbon steel. So that makes them cheap. Sub-$20 for a household size machine-stamped wok that can last decades. Like cast iron, it needs to be treated to prevent rusting.

The black stuff you're probably mistaking for teflon is the patina and conditioning the he has given the wok over years of use. Brand new woks come out dull grey, darker than polished aluminum. You have to scrub the machine oil off, then condition them.

Some use leeks and peanut oil to condition. Others use vegetable oil sprays (PAM) and bake it on in an oven. Woks are never washed, only wiped down.

My wife's Wok is arriving from China soon. Most are stamped, but since hers was her Valentine's present (she loves cooking Asian food), I'm getting hers hand-made by an artisan. The cost was several times more than an entry-level wok, but hopefully it's something we can hand down to our kids when we croak.













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It takes one highly skilled worker 6 straight hours to make the diameter 36cm wok, 12 hours to make diameter 50cm wok, 2 workers 2 days to make 64cm wok!!!
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:17 PM   #52
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I finally brewed using my new burner last night. It brought the strike and sparge water up slower than I thought it would. It did good in the boil. I opened it up full throttle and watched the temp jump 20 degrees almost instantly. At the end of my 60 minute boil I still had to boil off 1 gallon to get down to 5. Took the hops out and cranked the heat up. Boiled off in no time at all. Like 10 minutes. For me using a little more propane is worth it if it saves me time.

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Old 03-03-2013, 12:57 AM   #53
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Same here. As a parent of 9 month old twins. My time is worth way more than a few bucks

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Old 03-03-2013, 01:22 AM   #54
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Yup, me too. Thats why I spent a dime and turned up my 5500w electric unit at the end for 20 minutes. I couldn't turn it all the way up as it would have thrown out liquid, but turned it up a little. It would have cost me .28 to run it for a full hour, but as it was only at 80% for 15 min, it was less than a dime. I pay .07/KWH here.

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Old 03-03-2013, 02:07 AM   #55
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Yup, me too. Thats why I spent a dime and turned up my 5500w electric unit at the end for 20 minutes. I couldn't turn it all the way up as it would have thrown out liquid, but turned it up a little. It would have cost me .28 to run it for a full hour, but as it was only at 80% for 15 min, it was less than a dime. I pay .07/KWH here.
Big difference. We heat the bottoms and sides of our kettles, hoping some of the heat makes it to the wort before it floats away into space. You heat your wort. The kettle gets warm as a side-effect.

Jealous of your 7c/KWH. I pay 10c/KWH, and I'm on the state's low income price tier.

I offset my propane costs by striking and sparging with natural gas on the stove top. 100k BTU of natural gas (1 therm) costs me $0.48. 100k BTU of propane costs me $4.23 (at $3.85/gal).

My $0.48 therm is equivalent to 31.8 of your $0.07 kWh, so your electricity is about 4.65x more expensive before we apply an efficiency co-efficient.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:51 AM   #56
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I just ordered mine yesterday

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Yup, me too. Thats why I spent a dime and turned up my 5500w electric unit at the end for 20 minutes. I couldn't turn it all the way up as it would have thrown out liquid, but turned it up a little. It would have cost me .28 to run it for a full hour, but as it was only at 80% for 15 min, it was less than a dime. I pay .07/KWH here.
I was considering using a heat stick to supplement stove top boils until I realized we pay .22/KWH here wish I had your price, it is going to be brutal this summer with the a/c and pool filter on!
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http://www.blichmannengineering.com/...d_modular.html
Click on the tab that says burner data and see what Blichmann says about the BTU's of burners.

If you don't want to link to the page, here is what they said. There are also a few graphs on the page.

We weren't satisfied with selecting just any burner for the TopTier™, so we developed and tuned our own! While many manufacturers claim an impressive BTU capability, all they're talking about is the input energy -NOT- the actual energy entering the pot! Isn't the whole point to heat wort not the atmosphere?

Our requirements?
•High efficiency
•Fast heating
•Non rusting fume free stainless frame
•Excellent outdoor flame stability
•Quiet operation
•Great low setting performance without yellow flame ( blackens bottom of pot)


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A 72,000 BTU/hr burner that is a great blend of heating power and efficiency - and does so whisper quietly! In addition, low flame combustion is clean, wind performance is outstanding, and the heavy stainless construction is built to last a lifetime! For operation on natural gas expect 15% less power and 15% longer heating times due to the lower BTU contelt of natural gas vs. propane.

We also documented that the published BTU of competitive burners varied wildly from actual measured results. And measuring the performance is straightforward: simply run the burner for an hour at full power and measure the weight of the propane used in lb. Then multiply the weight in lb X 21,000 to get the burner rating in BTU/hr. For example. the Bayou Classic has a published rating of 180 KBTU/hr but only measured at 68 KBTU/hr!
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So the Bayou classic, according to Blichmann, puts out 4k BTU less and sells for about 1/4 the price? Sounds like the Bayou is the smarter buy.

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Old 04-27-2013, 03:25 AM   #60
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Update.


Still awesomeness. I love this burner not only for the price but for the time it saves. I don't mind one bit spending a little bit more on propane. And that's usually only when I crank it up wide open. I can say I've found my burner. Won't buy anything else

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