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Old 08-31-2014, 09:39 PM   #11
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Hop particles will settle to the bottom if dry hopping using pellets, no need to worry. Hop teas are definitely in use out there, but just like most other kinds of tea you'll get better flavor and aroma by not boiling. Try a 10-15 min stand in 160-180 degree water in a sealed container. Then strain out hops and add sugar solution. When I did this for my Galaxy Wheat you could smell the aroma on the other end of the house at bottling. It definitely helped capture some more flavor/aroma in the bottle. Also regarding water adjustments, most folks suggest upping gypsum additions to accentuate hop character.
Cool. Yeah, keeping the hops under the boiling point would probably be a good way to go. And then the sealed jar would probably help with the extraction process as the air above the liquid cools and creates a vacuum. REALLY cool. Thanks.
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:26 AM   #12
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Yup, that's basically exactly what I did. It was awesome.
Couple questions for you on this technique:

- How much hops did you use?
- Pellet or whole?
- Pellet hops seem to swell up a LOT and absorb a lot of water. How much water did you add the hops to?
- How did you strain the hops from the tea? (i.e. did you use a bag and squeeze it to get every last bit of hop juice? or did you use a French press?)
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:35 AM   #13
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1 oz pellet hops. I poured through a fine mesh bag to strain, and I probably squeezed it (I don't remember). I just filled a mason jar with hot water and added hops when it was 180 and put the lid on. I probably left it for 20 mins before cooling it and adding it to my cooled priming sugar solution in the bottling bucket.

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I've used this technique a couple of times on the same beer, a Black IPA, I used a half ounce of Warrior in two cups of water with three quarter cup of corn sugar, and I boiled it for five minutes. I put the hops in a fine mesh bag and hung it over the pot to drain as it cooled.
The results were definitely unique it gave the beer an almost root beer flavor. It's a technique worth looking into.

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The solution is pretty simple. Work out the proportions for quite a bit of bottling syrup in advance, and can it. Put your hops in a quart jar, fill right to the top with boiling syrup, and cap it. Once cooled, put it in the fridge, and add it to your beer when you go into cold crash. Bottle right from cold crash with the flavored syrup already in the beer.

The heat should bring all the good things out of the hops. By capping immediately, there is no way for the volatile stuff to escape. It will be trapped in the syrup just like the essence of hops is trapped in the chilled beer that comes out of a hop back through a counterflow chiller.

Isn't it great how ideas can evolve from these discussions.......... It never occurred to me before to add hops with bottling syrup, though I use bottling syrup. I like the concept, and this is how it would work into MY system. Somebody else will approach it differently.

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This is just the information that I was looking for. I bottled up a Pale Ale about a month ago and when I went to crack one open I was slightly disappointed in the taste, as it had lost some of the aroma and flavor that was there before bottling. Will definitely give this a go the next time to see how this comes out.

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I think I'm going to try this on my Heady Topper clone when I bottle it next week. I may be overthinking this but here is what I'm planning for my process:

- I'll need four pans on the stove
1. to sanitize/deoxygenate water for the hop tea - boil 15 min
2. to sanitize the strainer bag - boil 15 min
3. to sanitize the mason jar - boil 15 min
4. to prepare the priming syrup - add sugar then boil 15 min

1. Turn off the sanitized water and let it cool to 170-180
2. Prop the mason jar up in the pan it was boiled in
3. Add the hops and sanitized water to the mason jar, cap it and leave it in the water bath (this is to keep the tea temp in the 120-170 range for the steep)
4. Let the tea steep for 30 minutes while I boil and cool the priming sugar
5. Place the fine mesh bag at the bottom of the bottling bucket and pour the tea through it carefully to avoid oxidation and give it a slight squeeze to get some of the juice out of the wet hops
6. Add the cooled priming syrup to the bucket
7. Rack beer from fermenter into the bucket, quick stir, then bottle

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I think I'm going to try this on my Heady Topper clone when I bottle it next week. I may be overthinking this but here is what I'm planning for my process:

- I'll need four pans on the stove
1. to sanitize/deoxygenate water for the hop tea - boil 15 min
2. to sanitize the strainer bag - boil 15 min
3. to sanitize the mason jar - boil 15 min
4. to prepare the priming syrup - add sugar then boil 15 min

1. Turn off the sanitized water and let it cool to 170-180
2. Prop the mason jar up in the pan it was boiled in
3. Add the hops and sanitized water to the mason jar, cap it and leave it in the water bath (this is to keep the tea temp in the 120-170 range for the steep)
4. Let the tea steep for 30 minutes while I boil and cool the priming sugar
5. Place the fine mesh bag at the bottom of the bottling bucket and pour the tea through it carefully to avoid oxidation and give it a slight squeeze to get some of the juice out of the wet hops
6. Add the cooled priming syrup to the bucket
7. Rack beer from fermenter into the bucket, quick stir, then bottle
I think you are making it more complicated than it needs to be..... Boil one pot of water, sanitize your jar and bag in it, add your sugar, drop the hops & bag in the jar, and pour the hot water over the works (now cooled to 180 or so), cap it, and forget about it until time to bottle. Your jar and bag are clean, so there's no reason not to sanitize everything in the same water is there? Leave it sit for a day or two, and fish the bag out with a sterilized set of tongs, fork, etc..., or just hold it back with the jar lid when you pour the works into the bottling bucket.
Why make a simple process like making hop tea complicated?

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Your jar and bag are clean, so there's no reason not to sanitize everything in the same water is there? Why make a simple process like making hop tea complicated?
I might be able to boil the jar and bag together, but the hop bags tend to get discolored and probably leave some taste to the sanitizing water, so not sure I'd want to add the sugar to it. As to complicating a simple process, LOL, that's just me.... Also, I've got a lot on the line in this batch. 16.5 oz of hops I'll be risking to try a procedure I've never done before.
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I might be able to boil the jar and bag together, but the hop bags tend to get discolored and probably leave some taste to the sanitizing water, so not sure I'd want to add the sugar to it. As to complicating a simple process, LOL, that's just me.... Also, I've got a lot on the line in this batch. 16.5 oz of hops I'll be risking to try a procedure I've never done before.
I look forward to hearing about the outcome...... I've decided to do the same thing on my current brew...........

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