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Old 07-24-2008, 12:53 PM   #1
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I need your guys help to find out where i went wrong:

I made a starter yesterday using washed WY3068, 3/4 cup Extra light DME, and 1 quart of water.

I boiled the DME and water for 15 minutes and then cooled for 15 minutes in an ice bath

I made sure to sanitize my starter container (JD bottle) as well as my funnel.

Finally i pitched the yeast and shook the thing vigorously for 10 minutes.

The next day it has not done a thing and when i took an sg reading it is the same.

The only thing i can assume i guess is that i didnt harvest the yeast correctly and it died or something.

Any other ideas?

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So this is yeast you harvested from a previous batch? How and how long did you store the yeast between harvest and reuse?

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Wyeast 3068 is a 'fragile' yeast -- it is notoriously difficult to store. It is the only yeast I have had fail after freezing for more than 6 months, and it has a reputation for not storing well in the fridge either. Not sure why.

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Sometimes it takes more than a day to fire up. It sounds like you did everything right, just keep stirring or shaking it and you might have a good starter going tomorrow or the day after.

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How and how long did you store the yeast between harvest and reuse?
I stored it in the fridge. I harvested from a hefe i did back in early March.


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Wyeast 3068 is a 'fragile' yeast -- it is notoriously difficult to store.
This sucks . Does this go for all hefe yeasts? How about WL300, i've heard a lot of good things about that strain, just wonder how it stores.

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This sucks . Does this go for all hefe yeasts? How about WL300, i've heard a lot of good things about that strain, just wonder how it stores.
I don't know -- sorry. And I didn't mean to imply that your whole starter was dead. It may have just been knocked back a bit. Give it a bit of time to be sure that it didn't work.
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Brew day is on!

Time paid off...but just in case i made ANOTHER starter from some more of the washed 3068.

Aerated (Newer one on the left)



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No need to worry? Check out the up to code electrical.

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Lol, re-doing the kitchen, and NICE eyes eschatz!

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