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Old 07-27-2012, 02:02 AM   #11
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So if i use the sanitizer in the carboy and there is some left over, it may effect the flavor o the beer?
There's a HUGE difference between "some left over" and "dropping a gallon of frozen sanitizer" into my wort.

I once drank a shot of diulted starsan. It has a mild citrusy flavor. I guarantee you would not detect the leftover foam, or a few ounces of starsan solution at the bottom of a carboy, in a 5 gallon batch of beer, unless you have some phenomenal sensitivity to the flavor of starsan.

I honestly think that in most beers, even a gallon would be hard to detect, but there's certainly no promises there.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:16 AM   #12
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OK, I get what you're trying to do. I used to sanitize a food storage container with starsan just like you would any other vessel or container and then fill it with boiled water. Freeze that and then dump it in to your wort. It worked great for me...

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Old 07-27-2012, 02:16 AM   #13
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There's a HUGE difference between "some left over" and "dropping a gallon of frozen sanitizer" into my wort.

I once drank a shot of diulted starsan. It has a mild citrusy flavor. I guarantee you would not detect the leftover foam, or a few ounces of starsan solution at the bottom of a carboy, in a 5 gallon batch of beer, unless you have some phenomenal sensitivity to the flavor of starsan.

I honestly think that in most beers, even a gallon would be hard to detect, but there's certainly no promises there.
The is only 6ml in the 1 frozen gallon. I am afraid if i boil the water and then try to poor it into a plastic container it will melt the container. That is the only reason i ruled that out. I am making a citrus beer so i don't think i would b able to taste it
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:19 AM   #14
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The is only 6ml in the 1 frozen gallon. I am afraid if i boil the water and then try to poor it into a plastic container it will melt the container. That is the only reason i ruled that out. I am making a citrus beer so i don't think i would b able to taste it
Just let the water cool first. Just like chilling wort, you can put it in an ice bath if you want. I would just put the lid on the kettle and let the water chill over night when I did it.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:21 AM   #15
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Stauffbier is def on the right path. Minimize the concentration of starsan.

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The is only 6ml in the 1 frozen gallon. I am afraid if i boil the water and then try to poor it into a plastic container it will melt the container. That is the only reason i ruled that out. I am making a citrus beer so i don't think i would b able to taste it
Right, but that's the normal dilution rate, so you'll have 1 gallon of normal starsan solution... Or am I misunderstanding?

And yes, i agree, do not pour a large amount of boiling water into plastic.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:28 AM   #17
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Another simple option is to purchase ice from the store, such as Home City ice, that has been shipped in. It is made from sterile water to begin with and is usually kept frozen below -4F, which is a low enough temperature to kill almost all bacteria anyway. As long as you make sure the bag is puncture free when you buy it, there shouldn't be any issue.

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Just boil water, let it cool some, maybe put the pot in the sink and run cool water around it. Then when it is under 190 or so, what ever the melting temperature of your freezing vessel, fill and freeze.

This will be sterile, if you sanitize the container, and much easier and cheaper.

Many threads on this have been posted.

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Just let the water cool first. Just like chilling wort, you can put it in an ice bath if you want. I would just put the lid on the kettle and let the water chill over night when I did it.
+1. If you do it a few days in advance you'll have plenty of time to cool it off before freezing it. The starsan probably won't hurt but why risk it if you can do a better way with only a little more time commitment?
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:24 AM   #20
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and is usually kept frozen below -4F, which is a low enough temperature to kill almost all bacteria anyway.
Sorry, not true. You don't kill off bacteria (well, some will die but not all) by freezing. They just go dormant, for the most part. Just like you can't kill bacteria on meat (or other foods) by freezing. (I'm not talking about liquid nitrogen cold or absolute zero , just normal deep freezer cold).

Bottom line is: don't fool yourself into thinking you can sterilize water by freezing it.
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