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Old 07-02-2008, 05:59 PM   #1
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Ok, maybe I'm being impatient, but I pitched my yeast (White Labs Trappist - WLP500) last night to 2 qts of starter. I expected to see either significant activity or evidence of it this morning. Nothing. Yeast and starter both at room temp when pitched. I pumped some oxygen into it before pitching. I figure since White Labs calls the vial a "pitchable" yeast, meaning you should be able to throw it into 5 gal, that 2 qt should be nothing for it to handle. If it's just in a normal lag phase how long would it take to start 5 gal? Am I worrying needlessly? I'd RDWHAB if I had some (my first batch is in the secondary) and I'm at work.

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Old 07-02-2008, 06:02 PM   #2
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Like you said RDWHAHB!

It's probubly just eating up the oxygen you gave it and will start fermenting to. I HATE how they call those things 'pitchable yeast'. Sure, you could pitch it........if you want a long lag time.

You're doing fine, I bet it'll either be bubbling tonight or tomorrow.

Oh, what was the gravity of your starter??

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Old 07-02-2008, 06:03 PM   #3
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Sometimes I don't see much activity with my starters, sometimes I see lots of activity. There are several factors. I mean sometimes they just ferment out so quickly, that you just plain ole miss the activity.

It's possible that the yeast wasn't very viable, and it's taking a little time to take off. There can be some lag. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

If you are ultra-worried, I guess you could take a gravity reading.

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Sometimes I don't see much activity with my starters, sometimes I see lots of activity. There are several factors. I mean sometimes they just ferment out so quickly, that you just plain ole miss the activity.

I agree. We're dealing with living things, and there's no predictability with living things. I've been harvesting a lot of pacman from bottles, and each batch is different. I've only had one of 5 batches that actually had a Krauzen in my flask that I actually saw, some had rings after they fell, some didn't, all the yeasties ver viable....It's the same with starters.
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Thanks for the reassurance. OG of the starter was about 1.040.

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My starters are always inconsistent. One thing that has helped is smacking the pack before pitching. I live about 30 min from my LHBS. When I get in the car, I smack the pack. By the time I get home, the pack is showing signs of swelling. I let it swell some more, then pitch it into my flask of extra light DME "wort". I usually dont see activity for a while, and almost always miss fermentation. No worries, RDWHAHB!

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Old 07-02-2008, 08:34 PM   #7
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Anytime I've ever bought a white labs tube, I've been able to bring it to temperature and pitch it with very little lag. One time I got lazy and pitched it straight from the fridge and it only lagged for about 9 hrs before fermentation started. relax, dont worry, the yeasts know what they're doing.

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I usually have lag from some WL tubes....this strain lagged when I first pitched it. I just re-pitched it from a primary fermentation and it went off without a hitch. But, the first pitch from the tube was over 24 hours before I saw anything.

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One thing that has helped is smacking the pack before pitching. I live about 30 min from my LHBS. When I get in the car, I smack the pack. By the time I get home, the pack is showing signs of swelling....RDWHAHB!
I can't smack a White Labs tube. That's what I like about the Wyeast smack packs. You can tell the yeasts are busy before you even throw them into the starter.
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I can't smack a White Labs tube. That's what I like about the Wyeast smack packs. You can tell the yeasts are busy before you even throw them into the starter.
I like it..Yeasts getting busy...

Maybe you should play some Barry White to them.

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