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Old 04-16-2014, 10:48 PM   #1
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Hey guys, wondering what techniques you use to siphon or if there are any alternatives?

I'm using an auto-siphon but every time I do, it stops with like 5 inches of wort left and I can't pump it without mixing up all of the trub at the bottom...
I'm not sure what to do because I keep having to leave more and more wort in the fermenter each time I siphon and it's really a shame to dump all that out.

Is there something I'm missing, or any tools I can buy to improve my siphoning process?

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Old 04-16-2014, 10:55 PM   #2
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http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/siph...rboy-cap-2910/

This. Siphoning does suck. If you're siphoning from carboy to keg, you can use your co2 to pressurize the carboy (very low pressure) and push the beer out the siphon. After it's started, you're golden.

If siphoning from bucket to carboy or vice versa- do the above or follow that link.

If you're having too much trouble with your trub getting sucked up, cold crash the beer and then siphon while it's still cold- it will compact the sediment and trub at the bottom and you won't suck up near as much.

I hate siphoning.
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I honestly don't understand the technical difficulty w / using an auto-siphon. I've used one for years and rarely leave more than a small "puddle" if beer in my carboy & secondary & keg condition all my beers. Each step requiring siphoning.
You should consider the clip Auto-siphon sells that helps hold your siphon tip on the edge of your carboy.
Obviously, it does require your attention & you may need to slowly tip your carboy as the fluid level gets lower.


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Old 04-16-2014, 11:47 PM   #5
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As govner1 says tip it slowly as the level gets close to the bottom. This is what I do and I can get pretty much all of it.

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I honestly don't understand the technical difficulty w / using an auto-siphon. I've used one for years and rarely leave more than a small "puddle" if beer in my carboy & secondary & keg condition all my beers. Each step requiring siphoning.
You should consider the clip Auto-siphon sells that helps hold your siphon tip on the edge of your carboy.
Obviously, it does require your attention & you may need to slowly tip your carboy as the fluid level gets lower.


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I've done that as well... I wonder if there's an issue with getting a good suction or if I have a defective siphon... Do you find that the stream will stop multiple times throughout the process?
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Always hated screwing around siphoning too..... I switched to fermenting in bottling buckets, and recently added a couple Stainless Steel Brew Buckets. Having the spigot for transferring is great. Also makes it easy to harvest yeast. Gotta pay a bit more attention to detail as far as cleaning and sanitizing - but, I have not siphoned anything in the last couple hundred batches and would never go back. I primary in the bottling bucket, put a hose on the spigot and drain into a keg, carbonate..... and that is it.

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I've done that as well... I wonder if there's an issue with getting a good suction or if I have a defective siphon... Do you find that the stream will stop multiple times throughout the process?
I would make sure your hose is secure to the auto siphon, any air leaks would result in loss of siphon. Also a good siphon relies on gravity, the higher the liquid and longer hose results in a faster siphon. I remember fighting the auto siphon drove me nuts, after fixing the air leak where the hose attaches it fixed my problems.
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I also don't understand the problems with an autosiphon. The way to get the most out of the vessel is to tip it so than the wort is deeper. I usually have to stop the siphon to keep from transferring trub. I might lose 1/2 a bottle at most.

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Two things will mess with the autosiphon's ability to work. The first is if the tubing is not tight on the cane.. If you use 3/8" ID tubing, that's usually the culprit. It's better to use 5/16" ID tubing that fits TIGHT! If that's not the source of the air leak, sometimes the seal at the bottom of the cane will get too compressed and leak there. It's best to hit it with some hot water, fan the seal out a bit and store it OUTSIDE of the larger tube. If you store it put together, it will mess up the seal over time.

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