Advertise Here
Main · BrewSpace · Recipes · Wiki · Groups · Clubs · Gallery · Reviews · Video · Blogs · Store

Ultra Portable Kits - $74.95, Kegconnection.com$69.99 Brand new 2.5 Gallon Keg Pre-OrderFREE Shipping!!!
Go Back   Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Techniques



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-25-2006, 05:31 PM   #1
Junior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17
Default Secondary in Corny's??

I've tried searching this topic but with no results. I have heard of people doing this in the before but I never go that much info on it.

My plan is to start racking beer into my corny's as a secondary. I can let them sit there until it is time for the fridge and then pressurize them and squirt the remaining yeast out. Does anyone else do this?? If so do I need to set up some type of airlock? Can I just add some corn sugar and to the beer for a cask conditioned beer?? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I have 13 corny's but only 2 sets of carboys. This would let me increase the overall number of brews I can have on hand for all my beer mooching friends and family.


__________________
Some men learn by reading, and some men learn by watching. But some men just gotta pee on the electric fence themselves.
Kevlar is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2006, 06:30 PM   #2
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 379
Default

You can use any airtight food grade container as a secondary, you only need an airlock if you think you will exceed the vessels maximum working pressure which is over 100psi in a corni so thats extremely unlikely particularly as it has a PRV.

Normaly I would have suggested a plastic bucket FV but as you have so many cornis it would be silly not to utilise them.

The draw back is you will probably loose a good pint or so drawing off the sediment.
DAAB is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2006, 06:55 PM   #3
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North Attleboro, MA
Posts: 459
Default

What about transfering to a sanatized keg thru a filter?
D*Bo is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2006, 07:16 PM   #4
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 379
Default

Personaly i'm not a fan of filters, they filter out taste. If corn sugar is added to produce a cask conditioned beer then sediment is to be expected and if all the yeast is filtered out then cask conditioning is no longer an option.
DAAB is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 12:57 AM   #5
Cranky Old Guy
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 24,799
Default

I use cornies this way, usually yeast isn't a problem. Once in a while I'll have to transfer a second time or filter, maybe one in 20 batches. You don't need an airlock, in fact, you want to retain the CO2 for carbonization. The relief valves generally vent at 135 PSI, but it's unlikely you would ever see that much pressure. That would take several cups of primer. Most people cut the priming sugar in half, I don't prime at all.

You don't see much info, because it's so simple: let it age, first pint has yeast, end of test.
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

Last edited by david_42; 06-26-2006 at 01:00 AM.
david_42 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 02:05 AM   #6
Junior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17
Default

Thanks DAAB and David, The input is is very helpful.

The biggest question about the whole process is.... When you push beer into the secondary do you let it rest for a certain time and then add sugar for the cask conditioning or hope for the conditioning during the secondary???

To me these seem like petty questions. I plan on trying this process my next brew. I fugured I would learn just like I learned how to homebrew, trial and error. This just seems like a very easy way to streamline brew sessions. It just isn't talked about to much.
__________________
Some men learn by reading, and some men learn by watching. But some men just gotta pee on the electric fence themselves.
Kevlar is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 03:22 AM   #7
Cranky Old Guy
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 24,799
Default

For true cask conditioning, you would not prime at all. I just go from the fermenter into the cornie and wait a month or so, then put it on pressure for another week.
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"
david_42 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2006, 02:02 PM   #8
Junior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17
Default

Thanks, I will trying it out real soon
__________________
Some men learn by reading, and some men learn by watching. But some men just gotta pee on the electric fence themselves.
Kevlar is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2006, 07:46 AM   #9
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Surprise, AZ.
Posts: 1,495
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAAB
Personaly i'm not a fan of filters, they filter out taste. If corn sugar is added to produce a cask conditioned beer then sediment is to be expected and if all the yeast is filtered out then cask conditioning is no longer an option.
Actually it can and is done. A reason to remove the fermenting yeast from the beer prior to packaging is consistency. If you want to bottle/keg condition a beer and control the amount of yeast in the bottle/keg, adding fresh yeast to filtered beer is a very good method of accomplishing this goal. Sierra Nevada Brewing Company uses this method.

Quote:
Originally Posted by david_42
For true cask conditioning, you would not prime at all. I just go from the fermenter into the cornie and wait a month or so, then put it on pressure for another week.

True cask conditioning is just the opposite. Cask condition is done through natural carbonation not force carbing.

Wild
__________________
On Tap -
  1. 3 year old Oak Aged Bourbon Porter
  2. Irish Red Rye
  3. Robust Porter
  4. Russian Imperial Stout
  5. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Citra
  6. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Centennial
Primary - Nada
Secondary -
From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world. -- Saint Arnoldus
wild is offline Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2006, 08:21 AM   #10
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 379
Default

There's always one isn't there


DAAB is offline Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Has anyone converted 5 gal corny's to 3 gal? GLWIII DIY Projects 9 10-14-2009 09:31 PM
1/4 Barrels as Corny's? Simphoto02 Bottling/Kegging 1 09-01-2009 04:45 PM
3 gallon corny's shrades Bottling/Kegging 7 02-05-2009 07:01 PM
Charging Corny's with air rcrabb22 Bottling/Kegging 5 09-01-2008 07:18 PM
Sterilizing Corny's PitsPale Bottling/Kegging 3 05-09-2007 01:25 PM





Contact Us - Top - Privacy - All times are GMT. The time now is 01:28 AM.
Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved
Craft Beer & Brewery Forum