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Old 07-31-2012, 07:24 AM   #11
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I would just make a helles and mix it separately. Seriously, what's the harm? Why risk F'ing up an entire batch? As a homebrewer, you surely realize the complications introduced by trying to add the equivalent of 50% soda pop into a beer. The sweetness could ferment out, the taste could just be nasty, the acidity could screw with the yeast, the preservatives could stall fermentation, etc... That's a lot of downside for... what? You mix a carbonated soda with a carbonated beer when you're ready to drink it. That's how it's done traditionally.

Brew the base beer, make it good. Have the soda lying around to mix in.

What you're trying to do is take a traditional mixed drink and turn it into a one-step process like Sam Adams has done, with limited success. Why? It's always been a two step process, and it works fine as a two-step process...



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Old 07-31-2012, 10:46 AM   #12
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I see your point Sir. I'm beginning to accept that may be the way I have to go.



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Old 07-31-2012, 12:29 PM   #13
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I see your point Sir. I'm beginning to accept that may be the way I have to go.
Search the forums. I believe I read two seperate threads where members have done this. One with Simply Lemonade and the other with flat Mtn Dew. On Brewing TV, they simply mixed lemonade with beer at serving time. I had considered the Simply Lemonade recipe buy never got around to it. Let us know what you do and how it came out. It sounds like your friend is challenging you.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:16 PM   #14
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Yes, I do feel challenged at this point. Unless I hear from someone who has put the mix into a bottle and had good results I think I'm going to do 4 gallons of straight helles beer and use the last gallon of beer to mix with the lemonade in a seperate secondary. I fqigure 3 weeks in the secondary should release any excess carbonation and keep me from having exploding boittles. I guess how it tastes is going to be a mystery for about 6 weeks.

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Old 07-31-2012, 02:23 PM   #15
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Just a note on Raddler...

Raddler in Germany is a mix of Helles (or other pale beer) and Sprite/7-Up. In Europe (and this stems from the UK actually), you'll hear people say that shandy is a mix of beer and "lemonade". The lemonade they refer to is Sprite/7-Up, NOT lemonade as we do it in the 'States/Canada. US/Cdn lemonade is referred to in the UK as "Lemon squash".

I still prefer to mix at serving time as one can decide how much/little Sprite they mix in.

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Just a note on Raddler...

Raddler in Germany is a mix of Helles (or other pale beer) and Sprite/7-Up. In Europe (and this stems from the UK actually), you'll hear people say that shandy is a mix of beer and "lemonade". The lemonade they refer to is Sprite/7-Up, NOT lemonade as we do it in the 'States/Canada. US/Cdn lemonade is referred to in the UK as "Lemon squash".

I still prefer to mix at serving time as one can decide how much/little Sprite they mix in.

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This. Although I have never seen a Radler made with Sprite/7UP in Germany, it is always with Fanta Lemon (or another brand that has slipped my mind), but they do not make that here so you would have make do with what you have.

Also from my understanding SA's Porch Rocker is just lemon flavored. If I was trying to reproduce it I'd add pure lemon juice in a secondary. There should be no sugars in fresh squeezed lemon juice so you should not get an extra fermentation; it would be a matter of adding the right amount to get the lemon flavor without being tart. I'd also brew the beer a bit sweeter then what the style dictates.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:04 PM   #17
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This. Although I have never seen a Radler made with Sprite/7UP in Germany, it is always with Fanta Lemon (or another brand that has slipped my mind),
I've seen both murky (a la Fanta Lemon) and and non-murky (soda based) Radlers. I've also seen Coke weizen...

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Old 08-02-2012, 07:10 PM   #18
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Yeah the other brand I am thinking of is a clear soda, but is lemon flavored, not lemon lime.

And yes Cola Weizen, Banana Hefe's etc are not uncommon.

Edit: You can also buy Radler pre-mixed in the can at gas stations.

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Old 08-02-2012, 08:36 PM   #19
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Back in the late '60's in Ulm, it was San Pellegrino Lemonata.

AHS Lemongrass Ginger Ale brought back memories of radlers, so consider brewing with lemongrass.

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Old 08-11-2012, 10:15 PM   #20
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That's what I had when our hosts introduced us to the Radler. Half 7-up, half Helles It was a nice refreshing drink, IMO.



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