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Old 12-22-2007, 01:30 AM   #1
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Working on a Pilsner Urquel clone. Recipe calls for pitching at 70-75 degrees, and fermenting at 42-52 degrees.

How long should I wait before I put my carboy in the fermenting fridge? I've just statred to see some activity.

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Old 12-22-2007, 01:38 AM   #2
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Working on a Pilsner Urquel clone. Recipe calls for pitching at 70-75 degrees, and fermenting at 42-52 degrees.

How long should I wait before I put my carboy in the fermenting fridge? I've just statred to see some activity.

Thanks.

Hoppy
I am also doing an Urquell clone. Brewed it a couple weeks ago. I was told to get the temp down to the fermentation range as soon as possible, or the yeast will produce fruity esters and off-flavors from the high temps...
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:40 AM   #3
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When you see activity you can lower the temp. Personally, I prefer the cold pitch method (pitching at fermentation temperatures or lower) because the beer usually will not require a D-rest. You might have to perform a D-rest once fermentation is almost done.

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Old 12-22-2007, 01:41 AM   #4
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I actually pitch my yeast at fermentation temps because of the lager yeast. You have to be careful not to cool it too fast now, you don't want to halt the yeast, but bring it down ASAP.

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My lagers have gotten much better since I've started pitching cold. If you're using liquid yeast, make a starter. If you're using dry yeast, rehydrate first.

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Thanks everyone.

She's in the fridge now at 44. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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When pitching cold, make sure you have a sufficient amount of yeast (about 3oz of thick slurry for 5 gal wort). Warm pitching has come about to be able to pitch less yeast and still get a complete fermentation. When you don't have enough yeast for cold pitching you should pitch warm and help the yeast to grow faster. This will give you less problems than pitching cold with to little yeast.

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When you don't have enough yeast for cold pitching you should pitch warm and help the yeast to grow faster. This will give you less problems than pitching cold with to little yeast.

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Well to my mind he should wait until he has enough yeast to pitch cold, :-)
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Well to my mind he should wait until he has enough yeast to pitch cold, :-)
Yes, but this is his first lager and his schedule may not allow him to grow more yeast until he brews.

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Yes, but this is his first lager and his schedule may not allow him to grow more yeast until he brews.

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Yes, true.

But this is a mistake he should fix early. I always (now) let my yeast dictate when I brew. I have found that pitching a less than optimum amount of healthy yeast don't quite make the same quality of beer. Still drinkable, just
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