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Old 02-16-2007, 02:26 PM   #1
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After listening to james spencer's podcast on organic brewing i am wondering if it is worth it? has anyone else tried brewing an organic brew? i'm thinking, since i am an organic gardener. makes sense to me....



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But then your beer farts wont stink. Why bother?



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After listening to james spencer's podcast on organic brewing i am wondering if it is worth it? has anyone else tried brewing an organic brew? i'm thinking, since i am an organic gardener. makes sense to me....
If you really want to then do.
But you'll be limiting your supplier options, your ingredients available, drastically increasing your cost, probably decreasing your yield, probably not increasing the quality of the Ale, Blah, blah, blah.
But if it's important to you then go for it.

I care about quality food and the environment but this is not for me.
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But then your beer farts wont stink. Why bother?

not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean
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IMHO its not even worth it. I had a discussion with my instructor on that the other night. Sure, it can be just another gimmick to sell your beer, but theres not much more in quality and taste if any at all.

and look here. CHeck out the prices of the organic malts compared to the regular "top shelf" ****.

http://www.breworganic.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=215

I see it as paying almost double. So not worth it for me.

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my concern is obviously cost. its gonna taste good i know that. its the same way with gardening, but gardening is a much less expensive hobby(at least the way i do it)....thanks for the info folks!

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No. I disagree, I don't think it will taste better.

Organic food does not taste better than food grown in the same condition as the organic food. The only reason Organ is perceived to be better is because people compare it with mass produced forced grown food. I'm not saying organic isn't better for other reasons but it does not make the food taste better.
It like comparing Budpisser and a craft beer. Nothing like the same.
But an Organic craft beer and a normal craft beer will have no clear difference in quality and taste if the same ingredients and methods are used.
I grow my own food and it is not organic. I used weed killer last year and slug pellets so I can't call it organic but it is grown with care and I bet it tastes better than mass produce organic produce.

All I can say is do not believe the marketing.

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No. I disagree, I don't think it will taste better.

Organic food does not taste better than food grown in the same condition as the organic food. The only reason Organ is perceived to be better is because people compare it with mass produced forced grown food. I'm not saying organic isn't better for other reasons but it does not make the food taste better.
It like comparing Budpisser and a craft beer. Nothing like the same.
But an Organic craft beer and a normal craft beer will have no clear difference in quality and taste if the same ingredients and methods are used.
I grow my own food and it is not organic. I used weed killer last year and slug pellets so I can't call it organic but it is grown with care and I bet it tastes better than mass produce organic produce.

All I can say is do not believe the marketing.
that is like, an opinion, man...
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that is like, an opinion, man...

which part are you referring to?
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What's an opinion?

The bit about none organic food can taste better than organic?
The bit about not believing the Organic food industries marketing?
The bit about that if you grow food using the same methods as organic production but none organically it will probably be better?
The bit about an organic craft beer will not taste any better than a non organic beer produced by the same methods.

I'd say that is facts rather than opinions.
But were all entitled to our opinions.

I'm not trying to change yours, just stating mine.



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