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Old 04-02-2010, 11:57 PM   #1
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Here is what I got from Ward.

Can anyone gimme some input?

Thank you so much.

PH: 7
Dissolcved Solids: 50
cations/anions: .7/.8
sodium: 8
potassium: <1
Magnesium: <1
Hardness: 19
Nitrate: <.1
sulfate: 3
chloride: 13
carbondate: <1
bicarbondale: 12
alkalinity: 10

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Um, your Ca value is missing. Very important.

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I went to my LHBS and they said that I shouldn't even worry about my water. If I got a water filter, and the 5.2 stabilizer, I'd be fine...

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Um, your Ca value is missing. Very important.
Right. I'm sure you have that, it's on the Wards Labs report.

Your water seems to be very soft. You can easily make all styles of beer with adding some salts. Check out some of the EZ spreadsheets (-th has a great one and John Palmer's is good, too) to see the recommendations for your additions. Once you get the Ca value, that is!
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Hey ... sorry dont know how I missed that...

My CA is 6

Thanks for the responses so far. I know that with certain styles I may need to make some changes... Im looking for now just for what basic changes should I make to have a good general brewing water.

Thanks for any tips etc.

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It really depends on whether you are brewing all grain, or extract. Mash seems to be the process that is highly dependent on water chemistry, extract, not so much. Right now, it looks like you're deficient in Ca, Mg, and SO4. SO4 is necessary for good hop flavor. And yeast really like Mg. Do like Yoop suggested, here is the link to TH's spreadsheet. It's pretty self-explanatory and a great tool if you decide to modify your water.

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I am extract brewing for the time being.
So it looks like I will need to add CA, Mg, S04?
How do I do that or will the spreadsheet explain that?

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This thread, http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f128/ez-...dsheet-135095/, and the spreadsheet(s) should get you going.

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I just tried that calculator and I am baffled. It looks like it is geared towards a AG brewer.

I typed in my numbers and really am not sure what I need to change.

As an extract brewer... what should I add to my water?

As of now, I am not looking to make any kind of special water for a special beer... Just have a solid water that is good for most beer types.

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That's the thing- I don't really think there is a single profile that is perfect for all beers. Since you're extract brewing, though, I think just adding some salts to get you into a good range would be fine.

You're deficient on most things! If you look at the spreadsheet, at the bottom it has the ranges for the important things. I think the Ca is listed at 50-150 ppm, for example. There's another spreadsheet I've seen (but forget where I saw it at the moment) that has a gold star for everything that is "in range" for most beers. I'll see if I can rustle it up, but I"m at my cottage tonight on dial up and it would take me forever here. If someone else knows what I'm talking about, posting it in this thread would be appreciated! Otherwise, I'll find it at home tomorrow night.

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