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Old 07-19-2014, 03:47 PM   #1
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Hello,

The last couple of batches I made have come out really bitter, the most recent one incredibly bitter. Almost tastes like I'm drinking concrete or something. I think it might be the Columbus hops and I need to use less, but can someone tell me why it's so goddam bitter?

I was going for a "modern" style IPA like Punk IPA, 6 Point Sweet Action, Goose Island etc.

12lb Marris Otter pale malt
0.5lb Caramalt
0.5lb crystal malt

Mash with 4 gal at 150F for 90 mins

2oz Centennial 60min
2oz Columbus 45 min
1oz Centennial 30 min
1oz Columbus 15min

I tried it out of primary and it was waaaay too bitter. I've made this beer previously but couldn't remember exactly what I did, and it came out delicious. Best beer I've made yet. Trying to recreate it though I've made a monster.

Could it be dry hopped with something else to save the taste at all?

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Old 07-19-2014, 04:00 PM   #2
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You don't say whether this is a 4-gal batch, or you top to 5-gal, or what (gotta be somewhere in that range if that's the full grain bill), but...ummm, that bittering schedule is off the charts. As in (theoretically) near 200 IBU.

Do you have the capacity to brew up a second batch while this one sits? My advice would be to brew a second, less-bitter (possibly NO bitter!) batch and blend them off.

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It's a 5 gal batch. I sparge with 3 gal. Did you put the hops into a calculator to get the IBU?

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I did, yes. I still use QBrew, which is admittedly very low on features, but free.

http://freecode.com/projects/qbrew

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That's a good point, I haven't put it into a calculator. I use brewers friend which is also free http://www.brewersfriend.com/stats/. Apparently it's over 230 IBUs! I'll pay more attention to that next time.

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2oz Centennial 60min
2oz Columbus 45 min
1oz Centennial 30 min
1oz Columbus 15min
Well, with 5 oz of bittering hops, and 1 oz of flavor hops, I would guess that this beer would be BITTER and without much flavor or aroma.

Next time, try this:
.75 oz columbus 60 minutes
2 oz centennial 10 minutes
1 oz columbus 5 minutes
2 oz centennial flameout
dryhop with 1-2 oz of centennial and columbus

And the beer should be really nice and hoppy, with enough bitterness to balance.

Any hops added before about 15 minutes from the end of the boil contribute primarily to bitterness, so you want a good balance of bittering, sweet malt, and late hops for flavor and aroma.
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Hi Yooper, thanks again for your help . I have done some reading about hops and how to use them in a brew and I thought the last half hour you add aroma hops, and first part of the boil you add bittering hops? Is it the last 15 mins which really add to the aroma?

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Hi Yooper, thanks again for your help . I have done some reading about hops and how to use them in a brew and I thought the last half hour you add aroma hops, and first part of the boil you add bittering hops? Is it the last 15 mins which really add to the aroma?
I'd add aroma hops at less than 5 minutes. Any boiling time will drive off the aromatic oils that give you aroma. For the best aroma, dry hop.
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My last few IPA's and APA's have used bittering hops at 60 minutes only. That's where I get all the IBU's I want. After the boil and once the wort has cooled to 150-180, I steep 2-4 ounces of hops for aroma and flavor. Finally, I dry hop with 2-5 ounces of hops. This method has given me my favorite IPA/APA's so far.

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Wow that's alot of bittering hops OP. Of course it'll come out bitter.

Unless you're making a big double IPA, I'd suggest never using more than an ounce of bittering hops @ 60 min.

The majority of your hops should come at 15 mins and down, this is where all the flavor and aroma come from.

Also use Beersmith or something similar and it'll tell you (as long as you input everything correctly) how bitter your beer will be, so you'll know beforehand.

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