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Old 03-15-2007, 06:35 PM   #11
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would using a 2 liter bottle from soda be ok to use for holding a starter? Seems much cheaper than 25$ for the conical flasks.

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Old 03-15-2007, 06:44 PM   #12
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Spend the money on the flask, it is well worth is!

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Old 03-15-2007, 06:51 PM   #13
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I've been preparing my starters in a 1000 ml Erlenmyer. I've been using about 700 ml of water with 3/4 cup DME and yeast nutrient. Boil in the flask, cool and add the smack pack after it swells. I've been using a stopper with an airlock, but the permeable stoppers look like something I'll have to try out. 700 ml is on the ragged edge of a blowoff, depending on the particular yeast. I let the starter ferment for a couple days, carefully decant off the liquid and add another 700 ml of cooled boiled DME. Pitch it the next day. I also add yeast nutrient to my boils. I've been getting very rapid healthy fermentations. I'm probably going to go to a 2000 ml flask and a homemade stirrer and skip the second addition.
I think decanting off the spent wort and adding more is a bit overkill for 5 gallons...lol...maybe if you need 20 gallons, or something.

I use old spaghetti sauce jars with a #12 stopper and air lock. I boil 2/3 water of the jar volume, add in 1/3 cup DME, and pitch when its at 70°F. Cap it, shake the HELL out of it for 2-3 minutes, wait 48 hours swirling the yeast back into suspension a couple 2-3 times. That alone will give you a considerable amount of yeast over what a smack pack or WL tube has. Heck, WL tubes are (somehwat recklessly) pitchable w/o a starter!

At what point does your starter start to effect the taste of the brew? If you are pitching in 2L+ of basically plain beer - thats over a half gallon!!
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:03 PM   #14
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After breaking my $65 5L flask I went to Walmart and bought a vase for $4. Now I make 6 quart starters that work on my stirplate...

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Old 03-15-2007, 07:12 PM   #15
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At what point does your starter start to effect the taste of the brew? If you are pitching in 2L+ of basically plain beer - thats over a half gallon!!
If you chill the starter overnight (after it has fermented), the yeast cells will drop out of suspension and you can pour off the majority of the "bad beer" and just pitch the yeast.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:19 PM   #16
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Monster Mash, after seeing your insane rig, a vase is the last thing I would think you would use for a starter.

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Old 05-30-2007, 08:33 PM   #17
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After breaking my $65 5L flask I went to Walmart and bought a vase for $4. Now I make 6 quart starters that work on my stirplate...
That's a beautiful thing you have there. I was just searching through the forums wondering if there was some special reason erlenmeyer flasks are so favored besides being stove-worthy pyrex. I'm building a stirplate to save money and was wondering if I could get by using a growler or at least something cheaper than a pyrex flask.

Possibly the glass will be too thick on a growler for the stirplate. Will just have to find out tonight!
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:13 AM   #18
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I make a 750ml starter, then step it up to 1500-2000ml. My lag time is usualy only 5 hours.

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Old 05-31-2007, 01:36 AM   #19
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I have a 1 liter pyrex flask. I can put it right on the stove for the boil.

However, I usually do 1 lb of DME in a 1 gallon jug.

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Old 05-31-2007, 05:22 AM   #20
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How about a using a wine bottle, 1/2 cup or more of xldme in 1 pint water, boil for 15-20 min's, cool to room temp, put the yeast smack pack or rehydrated dry yeast in well sanitized wine bottle, pour room temp wort on top and shake well, then put a airlock on wine bottle and let it go at room temp overnight or until it's done. Flame off the bottle wine bottle mouth when your ready to pitch the starter, use your newly made wort to thoroughly rinse the wine bottle so to get all the yeast slurry and pour into to your primary.
It's cheap and you may already have a wine bottle or two.
Just need to get the correct size plug with a hole for the wine bottles.
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