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Old 08-20-2010, 12:49 AM   #1
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Default Lemony (citrusy maybe) flavor in all grain beer

I brewed terrapin's rye pale ale and it turned out quite good; however i detect almost a lemony taste (not sour at all) or maybe more citrusy taste in the beer that i dont believe is in the original. Could it only be the hops??

I also tasted this with the centennial blonde that i brewed (which was my first all grain batch). The Rye Pale Ale is just over 4 weeks old (brewed on July 17th) I normally dont touch them for 6 weeks, but scared myself when reading about hops aroma fading in pale ales and ipas. Speaking of which how quickly does that fade?

it was fermented at 66 degrees in a fridge with a temp controller on it in a fridge.

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Old 08-20-2010, 01:28 AM   #2
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What kind of yeast? Also hops? Best to give recipe.

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Old 08-20-2010, 01:34 AM   #3
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Do you use "Joy" dish detergent?

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Recipe: Terrapin Rye Pale Ale
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.057 SG
Estimated Color: 8.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 53.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 12.0 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 70.91 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Munich 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 9.09 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 9.09 %
1 lbs Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.27 %
8.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3.64 %
0.75 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 39.2 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.75 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (30 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (3 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
2 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 2000 Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13.75 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 4.30 gal of water at 170.1 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 2.41 gal of water at 198.5 F 168.0 F

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Old 08-20-2010, 01:37 AM   #5
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no joy dish detergent. Everything was brewed on my outdoor keggle setup with a cooler mash tun.

After posting this i am now wondering if it is just the hops.

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Old 08-20-2010, 03:13 AM   #6
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2 oz of Cascade is a lot at flameout. Not a bad thing, but it will be citrusy. Does it taste like grapefruit at all? All my beers with lots of amarillo thrown in at the end taste really grapefruity, in a good way.

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Old 08-20-2010, 07:25 AM   #7
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It sounds like the hops. Everyones perception of what the hops bring is a bit different. But generally people taste some form of citrus with Amarillo, Cascade & Centennial (from your other beer). I would never get Lemon from those but certainly citrus, although my current mostly Centennial IPA is more floral which covers any citrus bite.

Some hop aroma can fade pretty fast, usually for me after 8 weeks or so. That's why I like kegging because I can always add some dry hops to balance it back towards the hop profile I want.

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Old 08-23-2010, 06:19 PM   #8
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+1 it's the hops. Amarillo come through as incredibly juicy fruity to me, especially two ounces dry.

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i must say that now that it has had time to mellow out a bit, it is phenomenal!!

This is 100% the best beer i have brewed. I am so excited to get my brewing where i needed it. Cant wait to try out all kinds of stuff now.

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