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Old 07-05-2009, 05:16 PM   #1
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Default Lagering @ 48

So, my kegger has 3 settings. They are off, 48° and 30°F apparently. I would like to use it for lagering, and I know 48° is good to ferment lagers, but all the books call to lager in the mid 30s. Vienna seems to be the warmest lagering lager at 40°.

Since almost ALL styles of beer can be served around 48° I'd like to dry and lager around that temp. Will I need to add time to the lagering stage, will I have a tough time obtaining the crispness I want?

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Old 07-05-2009, 05:29 PM   #2
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You really should get colder than 48F. Lagering should be done at as close to 32F/0C as you can get. At 48F you are just doing an extended secondary. Why not use the 30F setting and keep an eye on it. A beer of ~5%ABV will go below 32F without freezing.

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Old 07-05-2009, 07:21 PM   #3
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The only issue is that I would like to have beer on tap during the lagering process, and I don't want to serve that at freezing. I may just have to hit up bottles then during the entire process.

Well you've convinced me to stock up on bottled beer.

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How about wrapping your kegs with insulation to keep them a bit warmer while you drop the temps? Never tried it but sounds like it might work.

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Why do you want the beer on tap during lagering? The beer should finish lagering before being served. Those temps are almost perfect for making lagers. 48°F for primary and 30°F for lagering. The typical beer freezes at ~28°F, so 30°F should be fine.

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Why do you want the beer on tap during lagering? The beer should finish lagering before being served. Those temps are almost perfect for making lagers. 48°F for primary and 30°F for lagering. The typical beer freezes at ~28°F, so 30°F should be fine.
The beer I want on tap would be another keg of ale.
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The beer I want on tap would be another keg of ale.
If you can swing it, you could use 38-40 degrees as a lagering temperature, as well as a serving temperature. If your kegerator won't keep that temperature, maybe an external controller could help.
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If you can swing it, you could use 38-40 degrees as a lagering temperature, as well as a serving temperature. If your kegerator won't keep that temperature, maybe an external controller could help.
That would be the best option. Get an external controller.

Johnson Controls A419 - $60-80 on Ebay. You'll get the best of both worlds.

Lagering at 40 would be fine. (see here How to Brew - By John Palmer - When to Lager)
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Well, I think for cheaper on craigslist I could pick up a frigde. I may explore that option because it means I don't have to touch the temp in the kegger pretty much forever. Almost every beer can be served at 48°. Minus mega American Lagers.

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Well, I think for cheaper on craigslist I could pick up a frigde. I may explore that option because it means I don't have to touch the temp in the kegger pretty much forever. Almost every beer can be served at 48°. Minus mega American Lagers.
Yeh my keezer is at 45F. I love it there for everything. Even white wine.
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