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bperry5003 01-21-2013 02:04 PM

Lagering
 
Is 35 degrees too cold for the first 12 days of lagering before the diacetyl rest?

mjohnson 01-21-2013 02:30 PM

I think you generally want to do a dyacetyl rest prior to lagering. My understanding is that the ideal situation is when you ramp up to a D-rest at the very end of fermentation before the yeast floc out. Then start to ramp down to lagering.

pjj2ba 01-21-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 4808978)
I think you generally want to do a dyacetyl rest prior to lagering. My understanding is that the ideal situation is when you ramp up to a D-rest at the very end of fermentation before the yeast floc out. Then start to ramp down to lagering.

Yep, this is the typical protocol. Lager after all fermentation is complete.

kombat 01-21-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bperry5003 (Post 4808906)
Is 35 degrees too cold for the first 12 days of lagering before the diacetyl rest?

As the others mentioned, you lager after the d-rest, not before it. Before the d-rest, you're not lagering, you're just fermenting (albeit, at temperatures cooler than an ale ferment would occur).

Ferment at 45° - 50° F until you're 2/3 of the way to your final gravity. Then raise the temp to room temp for 2 days for your diacetyl rest. Then slowly (about 5° F/day) lower the temperature down to your lagering temperature (33° - 40° F) for 6-8 weeks.

patthebrewer 01-21-2013 02:51 PM

+1
 
as the others have said!

bperry5003 01-21-2013 05:53 PM

I believe what I meant to say was.... Is 35 degrees too cold for the fermentation process of my beer that I am going to lager. Thanks for the answers!

Yooper 01-21-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bperry5003 (Post 4809693)
I believe what I meant to say was.... Is 35 degrees too cold for the fermentation process of my beer that I am going to lager. Thanks for the answers!

Yes, that's far too cold for fermentation. Lagers need to be fermented at 48-53 degrees or so. Under 45 degrees, the yeast will be inactive.

cuz_man 01-24-2013 10:29 AM

Is it fair to assume that the yeast no longer plays a part during the layering process? Having just started cold temperature brewing, I had planned to filter the beer through my 1 micron (absolute) filter into my key and then lager for 4 to 6 weeks.

pjj2ba 01-25-2013 03:14 PM

Once you get below 40 F, the yeast go dormant, so much of the maturation that occurs during lagering is not biological, but is purely chemical and physical in nature


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