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Old 05-03-2010, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default IIPA hops flavor/bitterness gone

I need help!
My IPAs are absolutely delicious a week after carbonation. They are PERFECT for about 2 weeks. Then the hops bitterness and flavor almost completely disappear, making the beer cloying and unbalanced. I understand IPAs need to be had young, but 1 month is insane!
Any suggestions? What information would be relevant for help?
So far this has happened on all my IIPAs, and I'm too new to brewing to figure this out.

Thanks for your help!

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Old 05-03-2010, 04:25 PM   #2
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:36 PM   #3
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no, it's too sudden.
From one week to the next, my neighbors, brothers... all agree, the hops just melted out of the beer, and they are now oversweet and cloying...

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Old 05-03-2010, 04:43 PM   #4
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Are you bottling or kegging?

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Old 05-03-2010, 05:00 PM   #5
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Bottling, and my guess would be that my problems come from bottling.

I jet wash, soak in easy clean, dishwash on sanitize cycle, then dunk in Star San prior tp bottling.

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Old 05-03-2010, 06:12 PM   #6
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I don't know man. Hoppy beers start getting worse the second they leave the fermenter. It's probably about right that your IPA's go downhill after a month in the bottle. Not sure how long your primary is, but I'm guessing the beer is 5-6 weeks old after they finally carb up. Six weeks is IPA life expectancy. What I've found to help is drop the yeast and dry hops fast by crash cooling if you can. My hoppy beers are always fermented with US-05, and it's done for sure after 1 week at 68F. Dry hop for 5 days, chill for two days, in the bottle after 2 weeks. The extra clarity helps the hops live a little longer. It also helps to be real careful about oxygen when packaging, oxidation jumps out of hoppy beers for some reason, and it mutes and contaminates the hop flavors and aromas.

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Old 05-03-2010, 06:24 PM   #7
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smizak,
Thanks for the reply, it's giving me something to think about. I gave 3 weeks primary, 1 week second/dry hopp, 2-3 weeks room temp, 1 week semi-cold room (have a lukewarm basement...) before opening. So maybe after my 1st 2 weeks I'm starting to get subdued hop flavors? Does this also affect bitterness? Because my beers are also losing bitterness.
Can any infection cause this?

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Old 05-03-2010, 06:37 PM   #8
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:43 PM   #9
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21% 2 13 American Two-row Pale
17% 2 5 Rye Malt info
7% 1 0 Corn Sugar info
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2% 0 4 White Wheat Malt
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cent .33oz 60min
chin .33oz 60min
war .33oz 60min

casc .5oz 20min
amar .5oz 20min

chin .5oz 10min
casc .5oz 10min

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cent .5oz 0min
ama .5oz 0min
simco.5oz 0 min

Dry hop 7 days 2 oz casc

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Old 05-03-2010, 06:44 PM   #10
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my take on Hebrew Lenny's RIPA. My absolute favorite beer. Two weeks ago, I woulda said cloned...
now it tastes really sweet, with some hops but not the crisp hopbomb..

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