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Old 03-25-2012, 10:34 PM   #31
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:58 PM   #32
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How about this - dry hop in your primary as soon as fermentation slows. Proper yeast pitch/health, temp control and the right hop addition can produce a amazing grain to glass dry hopped ale in < 3 weeks. Old Schoolers will just be getting into their secondary by then. Keg hopping, as previously mentioned, is awesome also. Doubt your LHBS guy would like any of that. Ok, Ok, I got it...use the BIAB line and tell him you are all electric also.

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Old 03-25-2012, 11:16 PM   #33
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Crazy things the LHBS has told me over spring break:

1. Don't place ANYTHING in your bucket, because it will cause microscopic scratches that will ruin your beer.

2. You need to put check valves on your gas-in lines or they will get full of beer and be ruined.

3. Don't buy the slightly bigger auto-siphon because it will slosh your beer around and oxidize it....he said it should only be used for wine.

When I hear this stuff I think "WTF!!!???" but I say "Oh really! Wow. That's something to think about." Me thinks its their way of upselling, and probably works well on newbs.

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:06 AM   #34
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Crazy things the LHBS has told me over spring break:

1. Don't place ANYTHING in your bucket, because it will cause microscopic scratches that will ruin your beer.

2. You need to put check valves on your gas-in lines or they will get full of beer and be ruined.

3. Don't buy the slightly bigger auto-siphon because it will slosh your beer around and oxidize it....he said it should only be used for wine.

When I hear this stuff I think "WTF!!!???" but I say "Oh really! Wow. That's something to think about." Me thinks its their way of upselling, and probably works well on newbs.
Holy cow, I must be nuts because I actually agree with him. Maybe not so much for #3, but it's certainly possible.

#1, yes anything that goes into the bucket (besides beer) can scratch it.
#2, yes, that happens. Not that the lines are ruined, but you could get backflow into the regulator and regulators are expensive!
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:28 AM   #35
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There is no way backflow could ever ruin a regulator. I have an old regulator with no check valve, accidently hooked the gas up to a carbed kegs out post and proceeded to see beer pour out the regulator. I just took it apart, washed it and put it back together. There is nothing inside the regulator but springs and a rubber diaphram. Nothing beer can harm( unless you leave the beer inside the regulator)

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:04 AM   #36
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I wasnt even talking to this guy originally, I was looking at the glasses. My buddy who is getting his feet wet brewing was asking him about getting a carboy as I walked up. He asked if he needed one for primary or secondary. (hes using my equipment right now, and buying stuff for himself here and there) I told him I use a bucket for primary, and rarely secondary, unless Im aging, dry hopping, or adding fruit. He asked how long I ferment, and I told him 3-6 weeks depending. He asked me "how is that working out?" I told him its been working great. He then proceeded to tell me how my beer is going to taste like cardboard, and hes sure something doesnt taste right with my brews.


To me he seemed like the know it all type, he kept saying how buckets never seal air tight, and was talking about his dad brewing twenty some years ago.

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Old 03-26-2012, 01:07 AM   #37
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Does anyone rack into a second plastic bucket for secondary and clarity?
The drawback to that is oxidation. Because the bucket will usually have a lot of headspace (space above the beerline), that means the beer is in contact with a lot of oxygen. In your primary fermentation in the bucket, that's not a worry, because all the CO2 being produced pushes the O2 out through the airlock and you get a nice bed of CO2 on top of the beer.

If you do secondary, its best to use a fermenter as close in size as possible to your batch, so that the exposure to O2 is limited.
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There is no way backflow could ever ruin a regulator.
Trust me, it can. I learned that one the hard way.

I now have check valves on all five lines.
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Holy cow, I must be nuts because I actually agree with him. Maybe not so much for #3, but it's certainly possible.

#1, yes anything that goes into the bucket (besides beer) can scratch it.
#2, yes, that happens. Not that the lines are ruined, but you could get backflow into the regulator and regulators are expensive!
Yes, you're insane, but that has nothing to do with the statements above. Agree on both points.
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Ha!

Like my peeps, the Old Order Amish, I consider zippers a sign of dangerous and god-less modernity and will not brew while wearing pants with zippers. Since all my pants have zippers . . .
What, not one pantless brewing joke?!?! I gave everybody a nice fat pitch right over the plate and nothing. Are some things just too horrible to joke about?

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