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phoenixs4r · 03-25-2012, 03:10 AM

You care too much of what someone else thinks.

kh54s10 · 03-25-2012, 03:17 AM

I don't do secondaries any more and will never use a glass carboy. They are too heavy for me and too dangerous.

I have taken a couple of beers to my local LHBS and they were very impressed that I made them (both were my own recipes) after beginning home brewing as recently as last July.

**Airborneguy** · 03-25-2012, 03:19 AM

One of my brew buddies is big on the 'old school' techniques. During an argument once, I told him that the Hanseatic League was trading world class beer in Northern Europe in the 13th Century. Catch my drift?

Fizzycist · 03-25-2012, 12:49 PM

If you asked for the advice well then take it or leave it. If he offered it as a suggestion like "I do ... for my beers." that's cool, too. If he's a know-at-all who habitually lectures his customers he's gonna drive them all off. Is he your only LHBS? Might try another and see if you like the atmosphere better.

**lou2row** · 03-25-2012, 12:57 PM

Ever meet someone that what they have or how they do something is the best of whatever it is? The only one they have to compare is theirs, but THEY KNOW it is better than anyone elses?

Sounds like you did the other day. Take the advice with a grin, don't try to convince him otherwise (cause you can't), and don't discuss technique at the shop unless someone else is there. It is what it is; move on.

**lylo** · 03-25-2012, 01:15 PM

You could really screw with him and tell him you BIAB as well!

**msa8967** · 03-25-2012, 01:28 PM

Remmber it is beer we are making not prescription drugs or making weapons grade plutonium. Things do not have to be extact and there are many ways to go from point A to point B (as long as point B has a generous pint poured waiting for us).

**lou2row** · 03-25-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lylo

You could really screw with him and tell him you BIAB as well!

nice!

**flananuts** · 03-25-2012, 01:49 PM

I would tell him to go f himself and I would buy everything online. I haven't done a secondary in 3 yrs. I don't use buckets but as long as you are clean and sanitary rock on! I am a proponent of trying to limit the amount of air your beer sees from pitch to glass.

**TimBrewz** · 03-25-2012, 03:11 PM

This is just old "conventional wisdom" that is neither anymore. BYO has a recent article that confirms that secondary is unnecessary for most ales. In this article it was also mentioned that leaving your ale on the yeast for up to 6 weeks does no harm.
I used to use glass only and and rack to secondary all the time. I got tired of the cleaning and weight of hauling around fragile glass. I now use buckets for most of my beers, and they are as good as ever. Also, if you are not planning to re-pitch your yeast, you can dry hop in primary after the beer has stopped dropping gravity points. I listen to the Jamil show often, they almost always do a single stage fermentation.