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Old 02-19-2011, 01:38 AM   #1
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Default How to brew better beer? or How I learned to love so so bitter beer/RDWHAHB

Long title for what i think is a common probelm. I have brewed 6- 5 gallon batches and after learning to stir, mointer boil overs and fermentation temps, i still end up with so so biter beer. I did do an ESB lager that was drinkable, other then that I hate to say it but I have not been impressed with home brew. I have done extract / steeping grains and one partial mash.

Any advice or comments would be helpful but I'm up to my neck with RDWHAHB (yes I've made beer but now i want it to taste good).

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Old 02-19-2011, 02:17 AM   #2
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Start with your process. Tell us how you make beer.

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Old 02-25-2011, 10:58 PM   #3
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Thanx for your reply i will attempt to answer.

Santize everything a day before fermentation bucket spitgots, lids and lids. Bleach vinger mix then rinse three times. Then day of brew Starsan everything. Oxidize brew pot, empty.

I have done extracts with steeping grains per more beer instructions. then begin brew day full boil. Bring 6 1/2 gallons to boil, remove off heat. Add LME, stir in slowly. Then restart boil. Once it reaches boil start clock 60 minutes, add drops to avoid boilovers stir and spray water as need to avoid boil overs add hopps last 5 min and at last minute of boil per instructions.

Ice bath and with immersion cooler get it down to about 70. Dump in to fermentation bucket using paint filter to filter trub/ hop pellets. Check temp, take hydro reading and pitch (sprinkle) dry yeast. seal lid and store. Check daily watching fermentation and temp. Wait 4 weeks, wash old and new bottels in deep sink scrub labels clean with brush rinse throughly. take hydro reading if good Run 2 cases of bottles thru dishwasher santizing /baterial twice. Then bottle (which are still a little warm too the touch. Cap wait one day test, wait 1 week test and wait 4 weeks test, then stop tracking store in frig drink occansionaly while still drinking store bought beer.

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Am I reading that right? You only put in hops at 5 minutes left in the boil?

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yes?? or ten thats how I understood the directions

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Think we've found your problem. The bitterness in beer comes from boiling the hops for the full 60 minutes (sometimes longer). Hops put in at 5-10 minutes are commonly called flavor hops and hops at flameout would be aroma hops. You're instructions lack bittering hops.

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yes?? or ten thats how I understood the directions
WTF?!?!?! Where are you getting these instructions??
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Are you using a recipe that assumes you have a pre-hopped malt extract?

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no i think i misspoke i meant last ten or five minutes of the
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no i think i misspoke i meant last ten or five minutes of the
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You need to add bittering hops at the beginning of a 60 minute boil. All you are adding is flavor/aroma hops.
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