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Old 09-06-2012, 06:09 PM   #1
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I was wondering if using a hop spider will have any negative effects on hop utilization. Are there any reasons one would not want to use one.

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Old 09-06-2012, 07:33 PM   #2
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I don't think so...there are a lot of people on here that use them (myself included).

The downfall can be if you use whole hops instead of pellets as the bag will become too full. As long as you're using pellets and they are consistently within the wort you should be just fine. They sure make cleaning the kettle easier too!

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Old 09-06-2012, 09:58 PM   #3
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Thats good to hear. I like using it since it makes brewing so much easier. I just wasn't sure if I was losing out on hop utilization because of it. The last batch I made I did not use it and it made transferring the wort harder since my siphon kept clogging up.

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Old 09-07-2012, 12:11 AM   #4
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Thats good to hear. I like using it since it makes brewing so much easier. I just wasn't sure if I was losing out on hop utilization because of it. The last batch I made I did not use it and it made transferring the wort harder since my siphon kept clogging up.
I wondered about this too, but after thinking about it for a while, I justify it thusly:

With any hops, leaf or pellet, your hop oils are going to be extracted from the plant material pretty darn quick in boiling wort, even if they're fairly close together in a bag. Hop cone leaves are really thin, and pellet shreds are even thinner.

Once that's happened, the hop oils are all throughout the boiling wort and are going to isomerize at the same rate as if you hadn't used a bag.

I'm just making this stuff up, but that's how I see it happening.
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:13 AM   #5
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:37 PM   #6
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It depends how big your bag is. A small bag might reduce utilization a little, a bigger bag less so.

Let me ask you: So what if using a Spider reduces utilization 4.7332%? Its unlikely you would notice that.

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Old 09-07-2012, 02:05 PM   #7
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I'm a believer as well but I do stick my spoon in there and give it a stir every once & a while. Don't know that it matters, it's just something I do...

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Old 09-07-2012, 02:15 PM   #8
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Ya I have done that too. I figured stirring it around wouldn't hurt. I think I may use a bigger bag. I get the paint strainers from Lowes so I can make the bag larger than I have. I was just worried about the bag touching the bottom of the pot and melting.

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When using Pellet hops, is the mesh of the Paint Strainer bag fine enough?

Does the Paint Strainer bag let out little particles of Pellet Hops that end up at the bottom of the kettle (or worse, in your beer)?


The reason I ask is I use a hop strainer bag. I think it's probably a tighter weave (finer) than the paint strainer bag, but its also smaller, meaning the hops get somewhat compressed.
If a paint strainer bag works just as well, maybe I will switch.

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When using Pellet hops, is the mesh of the Paint Strainer bag fine enough?

Does the Paint Strainer bag let out little particles of Pellet Hops that end up at the bottom of the kettle (or worse, in your beer)?
I'm sure some get through but it's a very small amount compared to just tossing the hops in the kettle... My "spider sack", after brewing is finished and I take it out has a big ole wad of hop material in it.
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