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DesertBrew 01-29-2005 03:48 PM

Hop Pellets - Strain the Wort?
 
Thus far I've only done kit recipes (3) with DME, some grain steeping and various hop pellets (provided in the recipe). I had one recipe where it had a hop bag and instructs said to use it only with the flavoring hops (pellets). The rest of the time Its been throw the hop pellets directly in the wort during different stages. Question on pellets, should you use a strainer then when you are putting the wort into the primary? the pellets break down pretty much but a strainer would catch a fair amount I'd suspect.

I just re-read the beginner section of the joy of brewing and it states "Warning: When using any kind of hops, strain wort before adding to fermenter". I initially took that as whole hops but...

seven77 01-29-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by desertBrew
Thus far I've only done kit recipes (3) with DME, some grain steeping and various hop pellets (provided in the recipe). I had one recipe where it had a hop bag and instructs said to use it only with the flavoring hops (pellets). The rest of the time Its been throw the hop pellets directly in the wort during different stages. Question on pellets, should you use a strainer then when you are putting the wort into the primary? the pellets break down pretty much but a strainer would catch a fair amount I'd suspect.

I just re-read the beginner section of the joy of brewing and it states "Warning: When using any kind of hops, strain wort before adding to fermenter". I initially took that as whole hops but...


I'm new to this too, but my last 4 batches I used pelet hops. They break up as soon as they hit the boil. After you cool the wort all the hop sediment seems to sit at the bottom of the kettle, as long as you keep the hose you're using to siphon with above that layer you won't get much trub into your fermentor. I've read that the faster you cool the wort the lower that trub will settle.

What I've been doing is sticking my tube all the way down to the bottom of the kettle, start the siphon with the other end of the hose in some container other than my fermentor. I then slowly raise the tube until sediment stops flowing through the vinal hose. Then I move the other end of the hose to my fermenter and siphon all the remaining wort to the fermentor. Last batch I had there was about 1/3 gallon of trub left in the kettle.

It seems to work for me, but like I said, I'm new to this too. I'm sure one of the pro's around here could offer better advice than I.

smorris 01-29-2005 05:11 PM

Before you start the siphon, stir the wort vigorously to create a mini whirlpool, the sediment will collect in a mound in the center with little on the edges where you siphon. Also wrap a choreboy scrubber around the pickup to filter.

DesertBrew 01-29-2005 06:06 PM

Hmm, I haven't siphoned the wort into the primary in the past, just poured it in from the kettle. The 1st batch I just launched it all in there. Subsequent batches I'd pour short of getting all the sediment from the kettle (sublimenal messages "should that be in there?" flowing through the gray matter). I did the pour thing as that's what the references I've read all said to do (Joy Book & How to Brew web site). I'd think using a large strainer would be easier if this stuff isn't supposed to get into the fermentor and would also do a substancial aerate as well.

Probably a premature question without me knowing exactly how to use whole hops but you strain those right? So why not strain if its pellets as well?

-- revised: Well after re-reading this: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter9-1.html I think I've educated myself a bit more...

Dark_Ale 01-29-2005 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by desertBrew
Hmm, I haven't siphoned the wort into the primary in the past, just poured it in from the kettle. The 1st batch I just launched it all in there. Subsequent batches I'd pour short of getting all the sediment from the kettle (sublimenal messages "should that be in there?" flowing through the gray matter). I did the pour thing as that's what the references I've read all said to do (Joy Book & How to Brew web site). I'd think using a large strainer would be easier if this stuff isn't supposed to get into the fermentor and would also do a substancial aerate as well.

Probably a premature question without me knowing exactly how to use whole hops but you strain those right? So why not strain if its pellets as well?

-- revised: Well after re-reading this: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter9-1.html I think I've educated myself a bit more...

I always pour everything directly into primary. (*kinda helps give yeast some 02) I feel like if you leave the hops in the primary, you'll get more flavor, when I go to secondary I leave as much stuff behind as possible. I have not had a problem with bitterness, although I guess you could depending on what your making and what hops you have. All in All your not going to hurt a thing. I have never made anything I could'nt drink yet....Brew On

Tophe 01-30-2005 04:11 PM

I just bought an "herb ball" the other day. I havent used it yet, but its a little ball thats made out of stainless screen and you put your hops in that and hang it from the side. Seems like it will work good.

rightwingnut 01-30-2005 09:22 PM

I didn't strain when I used pellets, I just tried to leave the sediment behind at each racking. Whole hops clogged the siphon on me, so I may used mesh bags next time, or be more careful w/ the siphon. Just try to leave as much as you can behind when you go to secondary...risk of off-flavors.

Majikcook 01-30-2005 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rightwingnut
I didn't strain when I used pellets, I just tried to leave the sediment behind at each racking. Whole hops clogged the siphon on me, so I may used mesh bags next time, or be more careful w/ the siphon. Just try to leave as much as you can behind when you go to secondary...risk of off-flavors.

My kit came with a "bucket top strainer bag" that you pour everything through, then throw out... Brewmasters select... but don't take my advice, I'm still fretting my first batch!

homebrewer_99 02-02-2005 03:48 AM

I use the screen strainer for the top of the bucket and sparge the hops with cold water. I do this because I bottle and reuse the yeast.

BTW, the metal ball is only good for hop leaves, pellets will dissolve and fall right through the holes.

JEM Australia 02-02-2005 08:27 AM

I've used women's stockings (managed to steal a pair of wifeys). Tie knots in the legs as high as possible, and cut the legs off below the knot. Stretch the waist band over your fermenter and hey presto, one hop strainer. It works OK, but probably doesn't remove all the small stuff.

Just boil the stockings in some water first to sanitise them and remove any dyes.


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