help on first SMaSH

brokenanchor · 12-02-2008, 01:47 AM

I'm thinking about doing a smash beer so I can understand different types of malts and hops a little better. Only problem is I'm still only into partial mash brewing, and won't be able to step up to AG in time. AHS has munich malt in LME form, so I was thinking about using that along with steeping some actual munich malt. I still have no idea what kind of hop would go well with this, or how much LME/base grain to use. I really want a damn drinkable beer, so any help would be great.

brokenanchor · 12-02-2008, 01:51 AM

on second look though I noticed that the LME was actually 40% munich and 60% 2 row so I suppose it wouldn't be a legitimate SMaSh, but I think it would still give me a pretty good idea about the malt and hop flavor

**DeathBrewer** · 12-02-2008, 01:57 AM

Why can't you do all-grain yet? couldn't you do a smaller batch? check out my stove-top all-grain thread in my sig.

Vienna and Munich SMaSH brews are great...don't miss out because you think you're not ready!

**jayhuff** · 12-02-2008, 02:21 AM

Listen to Death! He turned me on to doing 2.5 gal batches inside. I now have another modified version of AG brewing, but it can be done!

**amishland** · 12-02-2008, 02:27 AM

listen to death, do it, dont talk yourself out of trying new techniques

brokenanchor · 12-02-2008, 02:37 AM

Well, you all have me convinced. I've been using a turkey fryer outside for all of my brews, but making the switch doesn't seem as intimidating after reading deaths easy all grain method. Now I'm just debating whether to buy another turkey fryer or just buy a big pot for the stove. Any help on which type of hops to use of which yeast would be great.

brokenanchor · 12-02-2008, 02:46 AM

plus now that I plan on doing ag I suppose I could use any type of base grain I wanted. Now that I'm totally free'd up anyone have any favorite SMaSH recipes?

**DeathBrewer** · 12-02-2008, 02:48 AM

my vienna + northern brewer is honestly one of the best beers i've ever tasted.

10 lbs Vienna Malt
1 oz Northern Brewer @ 60 min (8.0%AA)
1 oz Northern Brewer @ 20 min (8.0%AA)
1 oz Northern Brewer @ 5 min (8.0%AA)
Nottingham yeast

just cut everything but the yeast in half for a 2.5 gallon batch.

any hops will be great, tho...post some of your ideas if you want recommendations.

no matter what, i would go with a clean yeast if you really want to figure out the malt and hop profiles (like nottingham, US-05, WLP001 or something of the like)

oh, and i would go with a big pot (30+ qt) for your stove. it'll be the best investment you can make as it will ALWAYS be something you will use for 5 gallon batches.

brokenanchor · 12-02-2008, 02:53 AM

Yeah I really don't want to go down to 2.5 gallon batches, because my friend and I brew for our household of 5 college guys, so we have trouble keeping up with brews as it is. I really am glad that you talked me into doing ag batches...might save me a few bucks. I really wanted to experiment with fuggle hops, but everyone seems to enjoy the hoppy beers, and with northern brewer at a higher AA I might just try your recipe. Any hop recommendations for the munich if I do decide to go that route?

**DeathBrewer** · 12-02-2008, 03:07 AM

my friend makes a mt. hood/belgian munich recipe that is to die for.

go with what you like. i like the woody flavor of northern brewer.

do you like soft? citrusy?

read the hops descriptions and see what sounds the best.

12-02-2008, 01:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
brokenanchor Member Recipes Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 77	help on first SMaSH I'm thinking about doing a smash beer so I can understand different types of malts and hops a little better. Only problem is I'm still only into partial mash brewing, and won't be able to step up to AG in time. AHS has munich malt in LME form, so I was thinking about using that along with steeping some actual munich malt. I still have no idea what kind of hop would go well with this, or how much LME/base grain to use. I really want a damn drinkable beer, so any help would be great. __________________ "Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink." -W.C. Fields I'm gonna SMaSH all weekend.

12-02-2008, 01:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
brokenanchor Member Recipes Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 77	on second look though I noticed that the LME was actually 40% munich and 60% 2 row so I suppose it wouldn't be a legitimate SMaSh, but I think it would still give me a pretty good idea about the malt and hop flavor __________________ "Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink." -W.C. Fields I'm gonna SMaSH all weekend.

12-02-2008, 01:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
DeathBrewer BEER HAS EVERYTHING??? Recipes Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,931 DeathBrewer's Gallery	Why can't you do all-grain yet? couldn't you do a smaller batch? check out my stove-top all-grain thread in my sig. Vienna and Munich SMaSH brews are great...don't miss out because you think you're not ready! __________________ Fermenting/Conditioning: Hefeweizen, Peasant Ale, Blood Ale, RIS 08/08/08 (v2), Belgian Dark Strong Ale, Irish Red Ale, ESB Bottled (aging): RIS 08/08/08 (og), Belgian Dubbel Drinking: Dunkelweizen, Steam Engine Ale, Light American Wheat BJCP Brew-all Primary: American Wheat, American Rye, Northern German Altbier Secondary: Cream Ale, Blonde Ale, Kölsch Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing "Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

12-02-2008, 02:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
brokenanchor Member Recipes Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 77	Well, you all have me convinced. I've been using a turkey fryer outside for all of my brews, but making the switch doesn't seem as intimidating after reading deaths easy all grain method. Now I'm just debating whether to buy another turkey fryer or just buy a big pot for the stove. Any help on which type of hops to use of which yeast would be great. __________________ "Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink." -W.C. Fields I'm gonna SMaSH all weekend.

12-02-2008, 02:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
brokenanchor Member Recipes Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 77	plus now that I plan on doing ag I suppose I could use any type of base grain I wanted. Now that I'm totally free'd up anyone have any favorite SMaSH recipes? __________________ "Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink." -W.C. Fields I'm gonna SMaSH all weekend.

12-02-2008, 02:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
jayhuff beer=good Recipes Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: middle tennessee Posts: 154 jayhuff's Gallery	Listen to Death! He turned me on to doing 2.5 gal batches inside. I now have another modified version of AG brewing, but it can be done!

12-02-2008, 02:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
amishland Kruski's Premium Homebrew Recipes Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 236 amishland's Gallery	listen to death, do it, dont talk yourself out of trying new techniques

12-02-2008, 02:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
DeathBrewer BEER HAS EVERYTHING??? Recipes Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,931 DeathBrewer's Gallery	my vienna + northern brewer is honestly one of the best beers i've ever tasted. 10 lbs Vienna Malt 1 oz Northern Brewer @ 60 min (8.0%AA) 1 oz Northern Brewer @ 20 min (8.0%AA) 1 oz Northern Brewer @ 5 min (8.0%AA) Nottingham yeast just cut everything but the yeast in half for a 2.5 gallon batch. any hops will be great, tho...post some of your ideas if you want recommendations. no matter what, i would go with a clean yeast if you really want to figure out the malt and hop profiles (like nottingham, US-05, WLP001 or something of the like) oh, and i would go with a big pot (30+ qt) for your stove. it'll be the best investment you can make as it will ALWAYS be something you will use for 5 gallon batches. __________________ Fermenting/Conditioning: Hefeweizen, Peasant Ale, Blood Ale, RIS 08/08/08 (v2), Belgian Dark Strong Ale, Irish Red Ale, ESB Bottled (aging): RIS 08/08/08 (og), Belgian Dubbel Drinking: Dunkelweizen, Steam Engine Ale, Light American Wheat BJCP Brew-all Primary: American Wheat, American Rye, Northern German Altbier Secondary: Cream Ale, Blonde Ale, Kölsch Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing "Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

12-02-2008, 02:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
brokenanchor Member Recipes Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 77	Yeah I really don't want to go down to 2.5 gallon batches, because my friend and I brew for our household of 5 college guys, so we have trouble keeping up with brews as it is. I really am glad that you talked me into doing ag batches...might save me a few bucks. I really wanted to experiment with fuggle hops, but everyone seems to enjoy the hoppy beers, and with northern brewer at a higher AA I might just try your recipe. Any hop recommendations for the munich if I do decide to go that route? __________________ "Everybody has to believe in something.....I believe I'll have another drink." -W.C. Fields I'm gonna SMaSH all weekend.

12-02-2008, 03:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
DeathBrewer BEER HAS EVERYTHING??? Recipes Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,931 DeathBrewer's Gallery	my friend makes a mt. hood/belgian munich recipe that is to die for. go with what you like. i like the woody flavor of northern brewer. do you like soft? citrusy? read the hops descriptions and see what sounds the best. __________________ Fermenting/Conditioning: Hefeweizen, Peasant Ale, Blood Ale, RIS 08/08/08 (v2), Belgian Dark Strong Ale, Irish Red Ale, ESB Bottled (aging): RIS 08/08/08 (og), Belgian Dubbel Drinking: Dunkelweizen, Steam Engine Ale, Light American Wheat BJCP Brew-all Primary: American Wheat, American Rye, Northern German Altbier Secondary: Cream Ale, Blonde Ale, Kölsch Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing "Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

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