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Old 11-10-2006, 06:30 PM   #1
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I'm about to rack my fifth brew to secondary tonight. I'm going to put some gelatin in it about 8 days before I bottle (per the LHBS instructions), to maybe get rid of some chill haze. It's my understanding that the gelatin pulls out most of the yeast in suspension, leaving enough to bottle condition the brew. My question is: Do I have to let the brew bottle condition longer to make up for the lowered amount of yeast, or will my usual 3 weeks to carbonation suffice? I know the brew gets better with some age, but I'm usually pretty eager to try it and drink some, so at least a few disappear right around the 3 week mark. I'd like to know when I can let some friends try it and be realtively certain that it's close to the final carbonation level.

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Old 11-10-2006, 07:33 PM   #2
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Three weeks should do it regardless.

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Thanks. I'll treat it as usual then.

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Are you guys really that concerned with having a crystal clear pour? I mean, if we were drinking water I'd question a bit of cloudiness but this is beer and chill haze doesn't affect taste as far as I can tell.

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Old 11-10-2006, 08:50 PM   #5
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Are you guys really that concerned with having a crystal clear pour? I mean, if we were drinking water I'd question a bit of cloudiness but this is beer and chill haze doesn't affect taste as far as I can tell.
Some people might be interested in prefecting all aspects of their beer. If you are going into a competetion with your beer, chill haze could be considered a flaw.

Me? I settle for flavor/body/color, but I have tried finings before, just to see how much of an impoct they would make.
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Are you guys really that concerned with having a crystal clear pour? I mean, if we were drinking water I'd question a bit of cloudiness but this is beer and chill haze doesn't affect taste as far as I can tell.

Yeah . . . I get where you are coming from. However, I take almost as much pride in the appearance of my beer as I do in the flavor. There is something very satisfying about quaffing a brilliantly clear beverage - especially when that fits the style profile. I've used gelatin before, and I will use it again.

Here is for a crystal clear pint!

Carry on . . .
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Some people might be interested in prefecting all aspects of their beer. If you are going into a competetion with your beer, chill haze could be considered a flaw.

Me? I settle for flavor/body/color, but I have tried finings before, just to see how much of an impoct they would make.
You criticized my beer for being hazy!
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Yeah . . .Here is for a crystal clear pint!

Carry on . . .
to you also. I like a clear beer also and will do anything I can to see it done.
In the odd case that I don't get clear beer, I don't worry about it. Still
tastes the same.
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Thanks guys. You're all right. It's really not that big of a deal to me, but I do like the idea of presenting a crystal clear beer. It does all taste the same to me, but I'm simply trying to improve on every aspect of it as best I can. It is possible that I should focus on other aspects of my brews right now before I worry about such small things as chill haze, but if doing something as simple as adding some gelatin to it will clear it up, then why not? That's just where I'm coming from on it.

Thanks again.

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Finings may also strip a bit of flavor. The chemical reaction that allows the haze to flocc out also results in some flavor compounds floccing out. I have never noticed, but I have read this.

You may also want to try isinglass if you can find it. I think that isinglass is more traditional for use in ales/lagers than is gelatin.

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