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Old 12-16-2011, 12:00 AM   #11
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Also, agree with all the votes for dry hopping.

That said, you don't add more hops for FWH. Instead you shift a percentage of hops from your other additions to FWH. So, you could still move a 1/4 oz of your flavor hops and a 1/4 oz of your aroma hops to FWH, if you wanted to give it a go.

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Old 12-16-2011, 12:17 AM   #12
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FWH with the magnum.
It will be great in an unexplainable way.

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FWH with the magnum.
It will be great in an unexplainable way.
In place of my 60 minute addition?
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:48 AM   #14
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Definitely don't just toss it in as FWH because you have nothing better to do with it. FWH will substantially increase your bitterness, so would throw the recipe off from your plan.

That said, agreed with everyone else, your IPA will be very happy with a dry hop addition.
Logically you would think it would substantially increase your bitterness, but it doesn't seem to. It adds a nice roundness to the hop flavor.

I don't know what your recipe looks like, but if you want to try it, maybe FWH with 1/4 to 1/3 and the rest dry.

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I love FWH.

My practice for almost all hoppy beers is to FWH in place of the 60 min addition. I don't adjust the others. I know that's contrary to received wisdom, but I've done six FWH batches in the last three months, and in every case it gives me a much more subtle, sneaky-starting bitterness that becomes more pronounced as the seconds pass. I think it's sublime!!

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What is the theory behind FWH? How is this going to benefit the beer beyond adding a few more IBUs from being in the wort for longer?

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What is the theory behind FWH? How is this going to benefit the beer beyond adding a few more IBUs from being in the wort for longer?
Different types of isomerization reactions take place at 170F versus 212F.

I say DO IT! I love FWH- just drank an AB clone that was supposedly over 100 IBUs due to the jacked up FWH calcs, but it's a really nice smooth bitterness. It works best with low cohumulone hops, apparently.
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I love FWH.

My practice for almost all hoppy beers is to FWH in place of the 60 min addition. I don't adjust the others. I know that's contrary to received wisdom, but I've done six FWH batches in the last three months, and in every case it gives me a much more subtle, sneaky-starting bitterness that becomes more pronounced as the seconds pass. I think it's sublime!!
I can't agree with you more. I'm currently drinking a 9% triple IPA of my own creation and I FWH this beer for the first time. It's 100 IBUs and you wouldn't know it. There is no big bite when it hits your palette. I get all the big fruit and citrus (4 oz of dry hops) and then the hop bitters come in slowly and balance off all that fruit. Sublime is the perfect adjective Piratwolf.
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+1 for switching the 60 min addition to fwh. Just put it in with the first runnings and leave it through the boil. Its a slight bump in ibus, but you will get more flavor out of the magnum. The bitterness is also smoother.

I guess its still a mystery exactly what happens during fwh, but ive done some beers with just a fwh bittering addition and they taste like i added some late addition hops.

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:33 AM   #20
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I too love FWH'ing with Magnum. Assuming those 4 oz. are your total supply, I might suggest:

0.5 oz. Magnum FWH
0.5 oz. Magnum 60 min
0.5 oz. Falconer's Flight 30 min
0.5 oz. Falconer's Flight 10 min
0.5 oz. Cascade 5 min
0.5 oz. Cascade 0 min
1.0 oz. Cascade Dry hop

If you could add another ounce of Falconer's split half between 0 min and Dry hop, that would be even better!

I recently did the following for a 68 IBU Red IPA that came out quite nice:

0.63 oz. Magnum 12.1% FWH
0.63 oz. Magnum 12.1% 60 min.
0.50 oz. Simcoe 12.2% 30 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade 5.4% 10 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade 5.4% 5 min.
0.50 oz. Cascade 5.4% 0 min.
0.50 oz. Simcoe 12.2% 0 min.
0.50 oz. Amarillo 7.5% 0 min.
1.00 oz. Amarillo 7.5% Dry Hop
1.00 oz. Cascade 5.4% Dry Hop
1.00 oz. Simcoe 12.2% Dry Hop

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