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ronjonacron 04-06-2013 01:24 AM

Fwh k.i.s.s.
 
So, I'm a smart guy, but sometimes with new ideas i need the whole picture put out in front of me.

From what I've read so far about the FW hopping technique, you move some of your 20-0 min additions to the pot while draining the mash tun. a 30% is mentioned, which seems like a lot. Does this replace any of your bittering additions, or is it really as simple as moving your 20-0 minutes additions to before the boil, and use bittering as you would normally?

For example:

typical method
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
20 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

FWH hopping method.

FWH - 1 OZ aroma/finishing hop
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

Am i grasping this correctly?

Stauffbier 04-06-2013 01:38 AM

I use my 60 min bittering hop as my FWH. All of my late addition hops remain unchanged.

wobdee 04-06-2013 12:28 PM

I think the 20 minute thing is just a guesstimate of IBU's you will get if you replace your 60 minute boil with a FWH.

I FWH most of my beers, mostly APA's or IPA's then do a heavy flame out addition instead of late boil additions.

aiptasia 04-06-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronjonacron (Post 5080778)
So, I'm a smart guy, but sometimes with new ideas i need the whole picture put out in front of me.

From what I've read so far about the FW hopping technique, you move some of your 20-0 min additions to the pot while draining the mash tun. a 30% is mentioned, which seems like a lot. Does this replace any of your bittering additions, or is it really as simple as moving your 20-0 minutes additions to before the boil, and use bittering as you would normally?

For example:

typical method
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
20 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

FWH hopping method.

FWH - 1 OZ aroma/finishing hop
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

Am i grasping this correctly?

Yes, you're grasping it correctly. FWIW, FWH is a way of making a smoother, more complex bitterness. It also lowers the pH of your runnings which can also help slightly with saccrification and hops utilization.

Stauffbier 04-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiptasia (Post 5081787)
Yes, you're grasping it correctly. FWIW, FWH is a way of making a smoother, more complex bitterness. It also lowers the pH of your runnings which can also help slightly with saccrification and hops utilization.

Are you referring to "mash hopping" or "first wort hopping"??

Boy 04-07-2013 09:42 AM

I rework my FWH until it is almost similar to my 60min. The FWH gives a much smoother and more flavorful add. I only add at most a .25 at 60min just to give a small bite of bittering.

SwivelHips 04-07-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stauffbier (Post 5080812)
I use my 60 min bittering hop as my FWH. All of my late addition hops remain unchanged.

This is what I do also.

pjj2ba 04-10-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronjonacron (Post 5080778)
For example:

typical method
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
20 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

FWH hopping method.

FWH - 1 OZ aroma/finishing hop
60 min - 1 oz bittering hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

Am i grasping this correctly?

I think below is what a lot of us do.

FWH - 1 oz bittering hop
20 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop
5 min - 1 oz aroma/finishing hop

After you brew a bunch of batches you get a feel for how much bittering you are getting. Don't stress too much about the actual IBU numbers. Pick one IBU calculating formula and stick to that. Now brew yourself some beers and learn what YOUR 30 IBU beer tastes like compared to another of YOUR beers at 50 IBUs. Based on these (and other of your beers) you eventually will be able to dial in your ability to correctly figure out how much hops to use (and when) to get the bitterness you desire

Boy 04-12-2013 08:58 AM

^^^^ Great post.

ronjonacron 04-14-2013 06:01 PM

Awesome thanks for the pointer. Youve cleared it up, now.to start my series of MO smash-es


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