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Old 06-16-2009, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default First 10 gallon batch

This week, I want to make my first 10 gallon batch. I wanted to do my DFH clone, but it requires 28 pounds of grain for 10 gallons. I guess I can do a very thick mash in my 10 gallon Igloo cooler, but I just haven't decided yet. Otherwise, I can make the APA below.

Anyway, I have a new SQ14 burner and I tried it out yesterday. Wow- it gets much hotter than my old turkey fryer. I also have a keggle that I've never used. I think most of the challenges for me are going to involve boil volume and the boil off rate! The keggle is much wider than my smaller pot and I think I'll have much greater evaporation.

I thought I'd start with 12 gallons and boil down to 10.5. Does that seem about right to you 10 galloners?

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Date: 6/14/2009
Batch Size: 10.00 gal
Brewer: Yooper
Boil Size: 12.00 gal Asst Brewer:

10 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 45.45 %
6 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 27.27 %
4 lbs Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 18.18 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4.55 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.55 %

1.50 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (60 min) Hops 25.0 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.60 %] (30 min) Hops 12.8 IBU
1.25 oz Cascade [6.30 %] (10 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] (5 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc

2 Pkgs Safale US-05 (Fermentis #US-05) Yeast-Ale

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:01 PM   #2
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Oh, by the way, I'm finally going to try to remember to take a few pictures. I love looking at everybody's pictures, but I always think of taking photos after I've put everything away.

If it doesn't rain, I'm going to do this on Thursday. There are several firsts here- the burner, the keggle, and brewing outside. I've never brewed outside before, so I have to find a new hose for my IC (to make it longer), etc. Since it's going to be heavy, I think I'll also mash outside. I think I can make a ghetto sculpture with the picnic table to minimize how much lifting I have to do.

If anybody who's done this a few times has any tips for me, that'd be great. I'm really a big wimp after all.

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:18 PM   #3
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I'd say the volumes sound about right. My keggle boiled off 1.5 gallons per hour. I always try for 5.5 gallons in each fermenter so I figure my batch size as 11g plus what ever I leave in the bottom of the Keggle (usually 1/4-1/2 gallon). That leaves me at about 11.25 after the boil. Just something to think about.

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:28 PM   #4
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I suspect your boiloff rate will change somewhat, so you'll have to make adjustments as you go. When I upgraded my brew kettle from a 10 gallon to a 15 gallon, I saw about 1/2 gallon more boiloff than before based soley on the geometry of the new kettle. YMMV, of course.

Truthfully, I've never done a 10 gallon batch either. I have the capacity to do so, and I'm resolved to do a 10 gallon batch of my MBM as quickly as I go through the stuff.

Looking forward to the pictures, Lorena!

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:44 PM   #5
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That seems about right to me... I've kind of rushed ahead and started brewing 10 gallon batches right off the starter block when I built my mash tun (I did DeathBrewer's Stovetop method for about 12 5 gallon batches), I have a 15 gal SS pot that is really thin and I'd imagine I get about 1.5 gallons of boiloff in an hour. That being said I don't really have vicious boils, they're kind of just simmering along because my pot is spanned across two stove burners.

I just did a SN Pale Ale clone last Friday that used BM's clone recipe and another one I found, and I think I managed to hit my volumes dead on, but it is hard for me to say because I was helping a friend with an extract brew and I spilled some of my wort by accident, plus I'm not really sure what my grain absorption is.

All that aside, good luck with the 10 gallon brew!

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Old 06-16-2009, 03:44 PM   #6
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I generally boil off about 1.5 gallons as well in my keggle... However, my boil is not very vigorous and it is very humid here in GA. So, I would say it is a good starting point for you to get things calibrated any way!

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Old 06-16-2009, 05:04 PM   #7
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I start with 12.5 and boil down to 11 in 60 minutes with a 15 gallon kettle. For a 90 minute boil I just plan on adding 3 quarts of top-off water about 30 minutes into the boil, rather than flirt with boilovers for the first half hour.

I've been using the SQ14 since I started, it's a great burner, I have a Banjo also now but the SQ14 is my workhorse.

I've done only a handful of 10 gallon batches at this point, but I have noticed that my 10 gallon batches are usually of a higher quality than my 5 gallon batches. I suspect it's due to the larger boil volume, as there is less kettle caramelization, so now I brew 10 gallons once I get a recipe dialed in.

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I brewed 10 gal of a Pilsner Sunday. 22# of grain in a 10gal cooler. Mash was not a problem. No room for mashout water, so I just sparged an extra time. Anyway, this lager is bubbling away nicely in my chest freezer.

BTW, I did 2 boils. My pot is 8 gallon. This extended the brew day by about 2 hours.

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I think I can make a ghetto sculpture with the picnic table to minimize how much lifting I have to do.
This will work great. I'm the reigning ghetto sculpture champion. My cooler sits atop two cement blocks which sit atop a picnic table. I gravity drain into my kettle which sits atop my burner with long legs attached. I siphon from my kettle into my ale pale which sits on the ground next to the burner.

All my non-brewer friends think it's a pretty fancy setup. I tend to agree. Beer comes out the end.
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Did my first 10 gallon batch on Sunday. I can already see ways to improve the process (for my setup). I've definitely have to make some kind of 'ghetto sculpture' because lugging buckets of wort around isn't fun or easy. I burned off 2 gallons an hour with my smaller pot and actually did the same again with the new one. Dead space for the trub was about a gallon so I had preboil.... 13 gallons. Came out perfect and hit all my numbers. Give it a go Yoop, your numbers sound fine. No mater how much 'planning' you put into a project.... Doing the project is the final learning curve. GL!!

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