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Old 07-23-2009, 11:08 PM   #321
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I just picked up one of these at my local Campmor.

7 gallons, HDPE, built-in spigot, $13. I may try a simple recipe next week to test out the process.

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Old 07-23-2009, 11:44 PM   #322
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Burbing the air out, pretty important if you are STORING the wort. If you are simply pitching the next day, no need.
Just curiosity - if we're putting the wort in the container at near-boiling temps (read: way over pasteurization temps) does it matter if there's air in the headspace?

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Old 07-23-2009, 11:54 PM   #323
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I got all out I could and stopped worrying. The head space did shrink as it cooled.

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Old 07-24-2009, 12:07 AM   #324
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I just picked up one of these at my local Campmor.

7 gallons, HDPE, built-in spigot, $13. I may try a simple recipe next week to test out the process.

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Careful, I bought one like that and it leaked air through the air vent when a little vacuum was place on it. Thats why I went with this container for storing wort:

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Old 07-24-2009, 12:20 AM   #325
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Hey, it just occurred to me that as a partial boil extract guy..... I probably dont want to use a 5 or 6 gallon winpack for no chill. My usual take from a one hour boil is 3.75 gallons. I guess maybe for extract, you'd want a 4 gallon or less winpack for the no-chill chilling, then add the wort and top up water to the regular fermenter the next day.

Hmm. US plastics doesn't seem to have something useful....

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here is a 2.5gal one, it prob holds a touch more than that.
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The 5 gallon ones become pretty soft when you put hot wort in them, and you could probably squeeze all the air out of one for a 4 gallon batch.

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Just curiosity - if we're putting the wort in the container at near-boiling temps (read: way over pasteurization temps) does it matter if there's air in the headspace?

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If you are storing it, you dont want head space. It isnt nasties you are worried about, it is exposure to O2.
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:32 PM   #328
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If you are storing it, you dont want head space. It isnt nasties you are worried about, it is exposure to O2.
Ok, well that's my question then: why is exposure to O2 a problem? We want to oxygenate the yeast before pitching anyway, right? Or is there some subtle mechanism at work here that I'm missing?

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Ok, well that's my question then: why is exposure to O2 a problem? We want to oxygenate the yeast before pitching anyway, right? Or is there some subtle mechanism at work here that I'm missing?

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O2 is good, but I dont beleive it is for long term storage of the wort. It is good for yeast, but they scrub it out pretty effectively. If you want a defiinitive answer though, best to go talk to the Aussies who store thier wort and have been for years. They make it a point to remove as much of the headpsace as possible, I only assume there is a good reason. Perhaps there isnt. Go ask the pros.
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Cool, I think I'll do just that Purging the headspace sounds like the right thing to do, I was just wondering if there was any further reasoning behind it. Being an engineer and all

I just ordered ingredients for the Irish red that will be my first no-chill. Looking forward to it!

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