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Old 05-18-2009, 01:22 AM   #121
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I've got an HDPE #2 pail that I got some (chilled) wort from a local microbrewery. I've read that HDPE can accept temperatures up to 230F. Can I use this for no-chill brewing?

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Old 05-18-2009, 01:24 AM   #122
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I've got an HDPE #2 pail that I got some (chilled) wort from a local microbrewery. I've read that HDPE can accept temperatures up to 230F. Can I use this for no-chill brewing?

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Problem is, when the wort cools, it shrinks... a lot. The pail is too rigid and will buckle under the vaccuum.


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Old 05-18-2009, 01:48 AM   #123
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I no chilled another beer yesterday, actually I sold off my IC yeterday too!

I had a guest over from HBT for a brew session yesterday, who could not believe that I was not chilling my beer. So I pointed him at the tap on my kegerator where my No Chill Haus Ale was, he loved it. He mentioned how CLEAN it tasted... seriously, no chilling works.

I converted at least one person to brewing on an electric HERMS yesterday and possibly two people to no chill brewing.

Brew On!


you got me hooked. I'll be ordering a 6 gallon cube pretty soon here.

plus after tasting my pale ale today I'm getting rid of my hop bag....killed my utilization.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:51 AM   #124
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Maybe I missed it but do you woory about HSA when transferring the wort? Will an autosiphon withstand the heat? Otherwise just dump the whole kettle in?

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Old 05-18-2009, 01:54 AM   #125
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Maybe I missed it but do you woory about HSA when transferring the wort? Will an autosiphon withstand the heat? Otherwise just dump the whole kettle in?
Ahh, I have a spigot on my keggle with a rotating dip tube inside. I run a hose right to the bottom of my container, so there is no aeration. NO, an autosiphon will not withstand boiling temps.
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Ok I was thinking that was the case. I guess a hose (proper temp. requirements) fitted to the end of my funnel with a careful pour will do the trick.


And do you squeze the air out of the cube before completely sealing the container? I thought I read that somewhere.

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Ok I was thinking that was the case. I guess a hose (proper temp. requirements) fitted to the end of my funnel with a careful pour will do the trick.


And do you squeze the air out of the cube before completely sealing the container? I thought I read that somewhere.

No, I dont, here is why. My no chill container is 6 gallons, because I ferment in it too. So, I simply transfer the wort, seal the lid on it, and let it sit for about 24 hours. At that point it is cooled to pitching temp, I then pitch my starter and place a blow off on the fermentor. Yes, a blow off... last time I thought I was safe, and I was no... blow offs are just so simple and effective!
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:48 AM   #128
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And do you squeze the air out of the cube before completely sealing the container? I thought I read that somewhere.

If you use the proper sized cube (unlike The Pol ), or are looking to store any longer than overnight, yes, you do try to squeeze all the air out before sealing.

As Pol mentioned, he only chills overnight and pitches a day later, and uses the container to ferment in as well. My original project (which has been postponed temporarily due to hectic schedule, which ironically was the reason i wanted to start this project ) would be to hot pack and store the wort, to be fermented days, weeks, or even months later. To do this you do not want the head space in your cube, and do want to squeeze all the air out.
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deathweed - I was wondering if you've considered alternatives like rapid cooling. What if you had a bucket liner that was food safe and could vacuum seal (like a food saver) ? Out of kettle, then freeze it solid then seal it up?

I do this with other liquids and it is great.

Hmm, maybe I'll do that with some starter wort!

Another thing I thought of is purging the container with CO2 prior (if there were headspace.

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The CO2 purge was discussed on Pol's thread. The O2 permeability of the HDPE is so high, you will get enough O2 through the walls after a few weeks of storage the wort will achieve saturation so it won't make any difference whether you purged or not.



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