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Old 10-27-2010, 03:43 AM   #11
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I thought the hot break was to get enzymes that you didn't want, out of your wort? With the idea be improving flavor? Still I think may try a gallon batch and just dry hop the crap out of it and drink it quick.

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Old 10-27-2010, 03:46 AM   #12
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If you're talking about improving brewery energy efficiency, I would think that using potable water to clean all the equipment would waste far more energy than boiling the wort.

Any ideas on "water-less" sanitation?



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Old 10-27-2010, 03:48 AM   #13
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:17 AM   #14
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UV light?

Sometimes used as a final step in water treatment plants, to kill anything that made it through the rest. Probably requires a fairly clear liquid to make sure it penetrates and kills all the bugs, but you could run your wort across a plate or something, so it spreads out in a thin layer that you could expose to the UV.

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Old 10-27-2010, 11:32 AM   #15
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If you're talking about improving brewery energy efficiency, I would think that using potable water to clean all the equipment would waste far more energy than boiling the wort.

Any ideas on "water-less" sanitation?
I will still end up with warm water from the output of my CFC, I will use that for cleaning. Divided in half with part mixed in oxyclean the other half to rinse with. No boil means no kettle to clean so all I would really have to clean is my MLT (a 48qt cube cooler) the manifold, and the tubing.. all of that will be done by emptying, rinsing, and recircing through the RIMs box.
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Old 10-27-2010, 11:51 AM   #16
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No boil AG beer? Check out Berliner Weisse. Traditionally, it's an unboiled low-alcohol wheat beer though most of the recipes I see call for a traditional boil and then a lacto culture. Napoleon was quite fond of it. I know it's not the same style of beer but it looks like you want to use a similar technique so it should help you find a good starting point.

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Old 10-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #17
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No boil AG beer? Check out Berliner Weisse. Traditionally, it's an unboiled low-alcohol wheat beer though most of the recipes I see call for a traditional boil and then a lacto culture. Napoleon was quite fond of it. I know it's not the same style of beer but it looks like you want to use a similar technique so it should help you find a good starting point.
Awesome... thanks for the info. I will definitely be taking a look at that
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No boil AG beer? Check out Berliner Weisse. Traditionally, it's an unboiled low-alcohol wheat beer though most of the recipes I see call for a traditional boil and then a lacto culture. Napoleon was quite fond of it. I know it's not the same style of beer but it looks like you want to use a similar technique so it should help you find a good starting point.
hal, i like that. the idea of a decoction that is. i could see a solid Am. wheat beer being made from this if someone actually finds this to be a viable homebrewing method (as in, a decent beer is produced).

decoction mash w/ recirc @170, hops and all, then directly to the fermenter with a big starter (1-2L).

i would love to hear how this experiment goes, as my testicles do not posses the mass required to put these theories into practice.
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:41 PM   #19
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Fascinating. Do it!

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Old 10-27-2010, 06:02 PM   #20
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Edit: Here's the thread I was thinking of.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/big-hop-flavor-1-3-hops-55721/

You're going to have to use a lot more hops than you would normally to get the bitterness. The volume of wort being boiled impacts the bitterness.



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