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Old 02-05-2013, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default Eisbock lagering and bottling

So, I thought about it long enougj, time has come to brew an eisbock. But i still have a few technical questions.

First, its gonna be a pale doppelbock base, between 8 and 9%.
40% munich
40% vienna
20% pils

A bit of hallertauer
Fermented with W34/70 at 50-55

Then it's gonna be eisbocked to between 12 and 15%, and a few small bottles to the double, so between 25 to 30% (kind of whisky-beer)

My questions are about the schedule...
-ferment/eisbock/lager/bottle
-ferment/lager/eisbock/bottle
-ferment/lager/eisbock/lager/bottle?

and for bottling, i was thinking to add champagne yeast with less than half of usual priming sugar, just to create a bit of co2 to protect the beer. Am I right?

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You'll want to:

Ferment/lager/eis/lager/bottle/carb/lager.

This is a beer that will like some age. Just checking to make sure: you've made perfect lagers before right? Because any flaws will just get amplified in the final beer.

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I've made the same Doppelbock who turned out great, but i'm aware that any flaws will be amplified. I'm taking the risk. It's gonna be a 1 or 2 gallon batch anyway.

What about eisbocking an Ale?

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I've made the same Doppelbock who turned out great, but i'm aware that any flaws will be amplified. I'm taking the risk. It's gonna be a 1 or 2 gallon batch anyway.

What about eisbocking an Ale?
You can eis any beer, but the clean lager styles lend themselves to it.

Also, if you eis a 1 gallon batch, you're only going to get a bottle or two of end product after yeast, trub, ice, and racking losses.
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Yhea, i calculated everything. I should get around a gallon before eusbocking, so around 6 small bottles after eisbocking. It's not a lot but it's really a test batch. If it's good, we'll go with a full 5 gallon batch next winter ( or when I get a lager fridge )

Another question. If I lager after eisbocking, the yeast is dead, so there's any CO2 production, so could it be a problem for oxydation? (Dont have any keg and co2 tank)

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I bring back this thread, because i'm going to brew it soon, and I want to hear you about the method I'm going to use. So, here it goes:

1-Primary fermentation with w34/70 at +/- 10°C (50°F) for a few weeks
2-Diacetyl Rest and Lagering for about 2 months
3-Eisbocking to desired ABV (between 12 and 15%)
4-Transfert to a carboy and pitch champagne yeast
5-Let it sit for a few days at around 15°C (60°F), so the champagne yeast can eat any fermentable sugars left before bottling, so I can control my carbonatation
6-Bottle with priming sugar (about half the usual dosage, to create a low and smooth carbonation)

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