Advertise Here
Main · BrewSpace · Recipes · Wiki · Groups · Clubs · Gallery · Reviews · Video · Blogs · Store

FREE Shipping!!!Ultra Portable Kits - $74.95, Kegconnection.comMemorial Day False Bottom Free Shipping
Go Back   Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Techniques



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-17-2009, 05:51 PM   #1
Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 89
Default Did yeast starter start?

I bought a beer kit for Christmas and just opened it this week. I didn't know that it came with liquid yeast that needs to be refridgerated. It probably hasn't gotten any higher than 70 degrees in my house, so i'm not sure if it's any good still.

To make sure it was still good, i made a yeast starter 3 days ago. I used 1/2 cup DME and a cup of water. I didn't notice any bubbles in the airlock and I can't tell if there's more yeast now than when i started.

Is there a way to determine if the yeast starter did anything? Or is it dead yeast?'
Thanks


robbase9 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 06:13 PM   #2
Yeast pee connoisseur
 
944play's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,632
Default

Hydrometer!
__________________
OD: SMaSH Gambrinus Organic Pils/Spalt Select (2308), SMaSH CMC Pils/Spalt Select (2308)
Pri -
Keg: SMaSH Mystery Malt/Spalt Select (2308), SMaSH Munich/Northern Brewer (2308), SMaSH Briess Pils/Spalt Select (2308), Kronik (WL002)
944play is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #3
Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 89
Default

i thought of that, but i didn't take an initial measurement. Can you still find out if it fermented anything?
robbase9 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 07:10 PM   #4
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,880
Blog Entries: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robbase9 View Post
i thought of that, but i didn't take an initial measurement. Can you still find out if it fermented anything?
Sure - just decant some of the liquid and drink it. If it tastes like wort (i.e. very sweet), you have dead yeast. If it tastes like green beer, you've had fermentation.

Also, it should have a fairly low FG in the single digits or lower double digits.
__________________
The Fiesty(sic) Goat Brewery est. 2007 & Clusterfuggle Experimental Ales est. 2009
Planned: Fat Man Brown Porter (Pro-Am #2), WLP 351 Hefeweizen, WLP 860 Munich Helles
Primary: Centennial Falcon IPA (Pro-Am #1), sLambic I
Secondary: Flanders Red
Kegged:Himmel un Ääd Kölsch #8, Farmhouse Session Saison Pilot Batch, Chocolate Milk Stout, Pale Ale, Chili Smoked Porter, Berliner Weisse w/ Brett #3
ArcaneXor is online now Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 09:21 PM   #5
Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 89
Default

Specific gravity is 1.050 and the taste is, well, yeasty to say the least. But it's not very sweet.
robbase9 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2009, 10:38 PM   #6
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 1,457
Default

If the SG is at 1.050 I'd say it's dead. I'll say a prayer for the little buggers.
__________________
"If you're gonna be an ape, be a hairy one" - Spyder

Primary 2: Edwort's Robust Porter
Secondary 1: LW Pale Ale
Secondary 1: Blackened Soul RIS
Kegged: Dead Guy Ale
Kegged: Rye Pale Ale
Kegged: Haus Pale Ale
Kegged: Nut Brown Ale
Kegged: Afrikan Amber
Kegged: Jock Scott Ale
Kegged: Afrikan Amber
ifishsum is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 01:40 AM   #7
ajf
Senior Member
 
ajf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,042
Default

If you made a starter with 1/2 cup DME to 1 cup water, it would have a gravity of something over 1.080. Introducing your poor innocent yeasts to such a starter is a bit like weaning your kids on Glenlivet.
If it's got down to 1.050, I'd say it's still alive, but probably has severe indegestion.

-a.
ajf is online now Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 01:53 AM   #8
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 403
Blog Entries: 8
Default

Just out of curiosity, what did you use to calculate that SG (1.080)?
__________________
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." ~V
reim0027 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 02:36 AM   #9
ajf
Senior Member
 
ajf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,042
Default

When I make a starter, I use about 3/4 cup DME to 1 qt (4 cups) water That gives me about 1.040. You used more than twice as much DME per volume of water, so the gravity would be more than double.

-a.
ajf is online now Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2009, 03:18 PM   #10
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,880
Blog Entries: 3
Default

Just to clarify, starters should generally be in the 1.030 - 1.040 range, no matter the type of beer you brew.


__________________
The Fiesty(sic) Goat Brewery est. 2007 & Clusterfuggle Experimental Ales est. 2009
Planned: Fat Man Brown Porter (Pro-Am #2), WLP 351 Hefeweizen, WLP 860 Munich Helles
Primary: Centennial Falcon IPA (Pro-Am #1), sLambic I
Secondary: Flanders Red
Kegged:Himmel un Ääd Kölsch #8, Farmhouse Session Saison Pilot Batch, Chocolate Milk Stout, Pale Ale, Chili Smoked Porter, Berliner Weisse w/ Brett #3
ArcaneXor is online now Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Brewing Sunday - when to start yeast starter? jldc Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 12-11-2008 06:59 PM
Starter didn't start suspect Recipes/Ingredients 6 11-22-2008 01:26 PM
Help with my yeast starter, i dont think its going to start anything... dollhousebrewery General Techniques 12 10-06-2007 05:50 AM
Starter did not appear to start... Ryan_PA General Techniques 15 03-10-2007 01:15 PM
starter didn't start trubador General Techniques 18 01-22-2007 10:46 PM





Contact Us - Top - Privacy - All times are GMT. The time now is 12:17 AM.
Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved
Craft Beer & Brewery Forum