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Old 02-06-2007, 04:12 PM   #11
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Nothing.

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #12
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.... and so what's in extract besides barley and water?
Hops in some extracts..............


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Old 02-06-2007, 04:17 PM   #13
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Hops in some extracts..............
... still not in violation of the Reinheitsgebot, although I suspect many of the hopped-extract kits include some non-malt sugars.
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.... and so what's in extract besides barley and water?
Extract is mashed barley product. The brewer has to do the work.
Germans are strict mofos!
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:18 PM   #15
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True, but generally speaking, almost all of the people on this board that use extract use unhopped
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:20 PM   #16
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But if you look at a German beer label it'll read: Gerstenextrakt...Barley extract! Same goes for Hopfenextrakt.

I will use corn sugar if I am in a hurry and only have a few weeks to go the an appointed time to drink. Other than that I prime with DME...so then I would be in compliance with the RHG.

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Wondered about the Hopfenextrakt myself...

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:39 PM   #18
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Does it really matter if you're making good beer?

The Nazis had some pretty bad purity laws!!!!!!

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:50 PM   #19
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I guess if I had to define my approach I'd be a "fair weather fan". I like the ideas of using minimal ingredients in beer. I like that fact that the idea prevents the use of bloating beer into a tasteless alien corn/rice product. What I do not like is that it immediately excludes many excellent styles because of the addition of say a small portion of processed sugars or fruit/spice additions. What I find interesting is how the whole idea has morphed into some mythical golden rule that people quote while saying "That aint beer", when in fact according to what I have read:

"The Reinheitsgebot was introduced in part to prevent price competition with bakers for wheat and rye. The restriction of grains to barley was meant to ensure the availability of sufficient amounts of affordable bread, as the more valuable wheat and rye were reserved for use by bakers. Today many Bavarian beers are again brewed using wheat and are thus no longer compliant with the Reinheitsgebot."

It was in part instituted for reasons other than making pure beer. I think you can capture more-or-less the spirit of what the law states without being anal about it. As long as you aren't just trying to make cheap hooch, to me that is what it is about. Heck I don't even care to bolster my Belgian recipes all that much with sugar and I like to experiment with some things. I think what happens in the corporate setting is indeed worlds apart from our homebrew kingdoms.

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Looks like a thread for me

The RGH is a cornerstone of the German beer culture. It limits the styles that can be brewed there, but also protects German beer. If if werent for the RHG, some german brewers would have already started to use adjuncts. They don't belong into any German style beer though there are (non-German) beer styles that are impossible w/o them.

I can only select fair-weatherd fan, though I'm striving to be a devoted follower. Here are the does and don't according to the currently valid German RHG as I know them right now:

- Primary ingredients only malted grain, water, hops and yeast. If you are using a lager yeast only barley malt is allowed. If you are using an ale yeas you can also add sugar, but not if you want to adhere to the Bavarian RHG.

here is the fine-print:

- Only the water can be treated with salts, not the mash. And after threatment the water still has to meet drinking water standards
- mash/wort can only be treated with lactic acid that comes from the malts lactic bacteria and malt sugar (acid malt, sour wort)
- no Whirlfloc or irish moss in the boil
- finings: Gelatin is out, isingglass and PVPP (polclar) are ok when you filter
- no artificial CO2 for carbonation of the beer. This gets most of the home brewers.
- hop extract only if it was extracted with water and fermentation CO2
- no isomerized hop extracts.


I generally start out with RHG compliance, but may deviate if I need to to fix the beer. One exaple would be the addition of gelatin as a fining agent. But I do carbonate naturally in the Keg before I start lagering the beer.

But for this years 4th of July I'll make a Classic American Pilsner which requires corn or rice

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