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Well **** lol
I have made world class beer in the "7" bottles. No doubt about that. But were they carcinogen bombs? Probably not, but it bears a little more scrutiny.
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03-07-2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezydemon
Well **** lol
I have made world class beer in the "7" bottles. No doubt about that. But were they carcinogen bombs? Probably not, but it bears a little more scrutiny.
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Like I said I think in my first post...It's really a matter of choice. People have been using all sorts of things, including these to brew stuff in for years. And I'm sure when the BB's came on the market the die-hard glass carboy users said it wouldn't be good for beer either. I've seen pics of jerrycans with airlocks on it on the web, and other strange things as well...So who really knows.
Whatever works for you as the brewer is what's best, if you're beer/wine tastes fine to you and you don't fall over a half hour later, then I guess it works for you.
I need a couple 3 gallon jugs for adding some fruit to mead after I rack it out of my 6 gall BB primary...rather than paying 15-20 each for 2 BB's, I'll probably get a couple of Lowe's or HD water bottles if I can find them with a <2> on them for 5 bucks apiece.
And I'll brew with the water.
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03-08-2008, 08:25 PM
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I use 5 gal water bottles that have a #1 PETE on them. They come from spring water from Dahlonega, Ga. No probs. I also have one that is a #7 that I use too. No probs with it either.
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11-12-2008, 06:50 PM
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So, how about using P.C. as a secondary for cider, since the cider is so acidy?
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11-12-2008, 07:53 PM
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This has been extensively studied - more so than many of the other materials that we use in brewing and food so get informed:
Polycarbonate Plastic and Bisphenol A
and make your choice.
I have used #7 bottles for both wine and beer.
I am more likely to develop cancer from the fried foods I eat and the second
hand smoke that I have inhaled.
Its all a matter of degree, amount dilution - call it what you will.
cheers.
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11-13-2008, 10:45 AM
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I agree with a previous poster, and have seen no information in this thread that would add to what I already know about this subject. PETE is an approved material, and is the one most generally available on the marked in the "Better Bottle" brand carboys. While I might speculate that packaging water in a particular type of plastic might be safe, but that another liquid containing a solvent like alcohol might not, I've seen nothing here or anywhere else referring to a scientifically rigorous study on this issue. I'm therefore reserving judgment. There's a huge fear / anxiety factor when threads about these sorts of subjects get going, and pretty soon everyone thinks that something is wrong, even in the complete absence of any reliable evidence (cf. the ongoing hysteria about children's vaccinations an autism).
Personally, I use the two 5 gallon glass carboys that came with my brewing kit, and a 5-gal. Better Bottle that I purchased. As far as I'm concerned, the PETE carboy is the winner, no contest. It's lighter, easier to handle, just as easy to clean & sanitize, and has none of the safety concerns that are undeniable with glass. For primary fermentation, I just use the white plastic "Ale Pail," and don't see any issues there, either.
As far as the absorption of chemicals from the various things we eat, drink & handle on a daily basis....see the previous post. A lot of what passes for information on these subjects in the media contains no facts, and is just a vehicle for the rampant speculation that rules in a culture dominated by 24-hour news channels. As a final note, my son was a nuclear submariner, and now works in a nuclear power plant. He will not be exposed to as much radiation in his entire career as you will receive if you fly coast-to-coast on an airliner. Flying six miles up, you are flying above most of the Earth's protective atmosphere, and are thus exposed to far more of the Sun's radiation. So much for commonly held beliefs, which may or many not contain any "wisdom."
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11-13-2008, 01:35 PM
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Rico, it would really help some of us older people if you put a space between each "paragraph," on occasion. Big blocks of text are very difficult for some of use to read.
Without a little bit of white space every few sentences.
Ok?

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11-13-2008, 08:39 PM
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...and having unnecessarily long signatures makes posts difficult for others of us to read.
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08-06-2009, 07:14 PM
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polycarbonate #7 bottles
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I have been using the #7 culligan water bottles, and read all the debate when the subject comes up. it would of been nice since this has been brought up a gazillion times if this was in a stickey in beginners brew forum as this is the scientific answer i have been looking for on this forum. Now I can make an informed decision as to wether to keep using my CHEEPER BOTTLES
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This has been extensively studied - more so than many of the other materials that we use in brewing and food so get informed:
Polycarbonate Plastic and Bisphenol A
Polycarbonate Plastic and Bisphenol A
and make your choice.
I have used #7 bottles for both wine and beer.
I am more likely to develop cancer from the fried foods I eat and the second
hand smoke that I have inhaled.
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Thanks HBT for all the good information that is passed along   
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08-06-2009, 10:20 PM
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Be good to your yeast...
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Threads like this remind me of why I just RDWHAHB. 
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