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Old 09-21-2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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Hello all,

This is for AHS Apocalypso brew partial mash.

I've already added Irsih Moss. I love a clear beer though.

Just curious if anyone has tried cold crashing and gelatin to clear out a beer or whether anyone thinks this would be extreme overkill?

I'm leaning towards the side of overkill as CC (cold crashing) is going to get enough of the crap out of suspension to drop and if I bottle cold, it will leave a pretty compact cake as it's cold it's not going to move around as much when transferring to the bottles.

However part of me says add the gel then CC it and see what happens. The only thing is I don' tknow that it's going to do that much of a difference from just CC it.

I'm open to suggestions or if noone has tried, I'm open to doing it and uplaoding pics too if anyone has pics of the Apocalypso that's been CC or whirlfloc or whatever method.

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Old 09-21-2011, 07:25 PM   #2
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For finings to work the beer really has to be cold, otherwise the beer will still cloud back up when it's chilled.

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Old 09-21-2011, 07:34 PM   #3
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I do both and get crystal clear beer after the first few pints. It may be just fine cold crashing, but I'll keep doing it this way. And as malticulous said, it works better when it's cold.

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Well it's decided then if there's someone out there that gets crystal clear results doing it, then I'll do it too.

All I really wanted was to see if someone had tried it and if it made a difference. So if it did then I'm all for going the extra step. Hell sugar, color, and taste free gel is only a buck anyway and there's 4 bags in the pack. I can afford $.25

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Old 09-22-2011, 01:13 AM   #5
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I would never gelatin without cold crash... and it does work. I don't even use kettle finings any more.

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Old 09-22-2011, 09:39 AM   #6
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I thought gelatin was added at secondary?

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Yeah the Gelatin is added at the secondary then you stick it in the fridge is my understanding.

It just makes sense to me that way if you cold crash then add gel, the gel won't be able to disperse properly as it's being thrown in a cold mix.

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If you want to get rid of chill haze, it has to actually be present for finings to work...

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Yes, I understand how it works. I don't have room in a fridge to put 4 carboys full of beer. We normally rack to secondary for 1 week then keg and carb for another week. We then store finished kegs in the basement until needed. Then they are put in the fridge for pouring.

We have had a few issues with chill haze and are working on a solution to solve it.

We added gelatin to the secondary last week and will see if this helps.

Any other suggestions?

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Chill haze reduction = strong boil, whirlfloc/irish moss, rapid chilling - the idea is to get at it early rather than dealing with it in the fermenter. I don't have any chill haze using the above methods.

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