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reinstone 08-25-2013 02:13 AM

Chloropenols
 
Had an issue with forgetting to treat sparge water with Camden tablets. How long will it take to detect the off flavors from this? They aren't there pre ferment, will they show up later? Thanks

reinstone 08-25-2013 11:50 PM

No one? Thanks

Yooper 08-25-2013 11:54 PM

They show up post-ferment. It's caused by the phenol compounds produced by the yeast interacting with the chlorine. They don't show up in wort, as the phenols aren't yet there from the yeast.

meltroha 08-25-2013 11:55 PM

All depends on your water, chlorine or chloromine, and the levels of them. I couldn't tell in a pale ale till bottling. A black ipa until after conditioning. Then I started using campden. I guess the lighter the quicker?

reinstone 08-26-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Yooper (Post 5459570)
They show up post-ferment. It's caused by the phenol compounds produced by the yeast interacting with the chlorine. They don't show up in wort, as the phenols aren't yet there from the yeast.

I added a tab to the boil also......

I'm wondering if some of the Camden was still in solution as I added water to the already treated water to sparge. Thanks

Yooper 08-26-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by reinstone (Post 5459667)
I added a tab to the boil also......

I'm wondering if some of the Camden was still in solution as I added water to the already treated water to sparge. Thanks

Adding campden to the boil won't impact the chlorine/chloramine levels- it has to be done pre-mash for the reaction to occur. The reaction happens quickly, and nothing stays in solution.

reinstone 08-26-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by reinstone (Post 5459667)
I added a tab to the boil also......

I'm wondering if some of the Camden was still in solution as I added water to the already treated water to sparge. Thanks

Please see my post Camden issues. Thanks. This has more info on the problem.

reinstone 08-26-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yooper (Post 5459673)
Adding campden to the boil won't impact the chlorine/chloramine levels- it has to be done pre-mash for the reaction to occur. The reaction happens quickly, and nothing stays in solution.

Dang. And thanks. I guess I'll hop the hops of the ipa cover it up or for some other miracle, I'll report back. I am serving this for a party. Considering a re brew.

reinstone 08-26-2013 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yooper (Post 5459673)
Adding campden to the boil won't impact the chlorine/chloramine levels- it has to be done pre-mash for the reaction to occur. The reaction happens quickly, and nothing stays in solution.

What happens to the metabisulfate that doesn't react in this case?

Yooper 08-26-2013 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by reinstone (Post 5459697)
What happens to the metabisulfate that doesn't react in this case?

It dissipates rather quickly, so it would just go out into the air. I'm not sure how fast it would dissipate in a boil, as I've never boiled a wort or must with sulfites in it- but I know just stirring helps it dissipates quickly so maybe it would dissipate faster in a boil? I dunno.


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