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08-29-2009, 06:49 PM
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Can't Culture Westmalle Yeast
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I dumped the last part of a bottle of Westmalle Dubbel into my starter flask and it just isn't doing anthing. Been a week. Anyone ever done this?
I used the standard 1 cup DME, 4 cups water. It has been on a stirplate the whole time. Even added a bit of yeast nutrients in there for good measure.
I did see the yeast at the bottom of the bottle. Maybe it wasn't viable. The beer was durn good, anyhow.
I don't think it is possible that it grew while I wasn't looking. I know the signs.
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08-29-2009, 07:14 PM
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When you culture from a bottle, you need to start with a small amount of low gravity wort. I generally use about 50 ml. of 1.030 and step it up a couple times. Of course, it's always possible the yeast in the bottle wasn't viable. BTW, did you know that WY3787 is Westmalle yeast?
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08-30-2009, 12:37 AM
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Westmalle is one of the toughest to bottle harvest, and damn near impossible from state-side bottles. I only had success with fresh bottles I carried back from Belgium.
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08-30-2009, 12:52 AM
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Yea, I'm pretty close to declaring failure on this. I think I will give it until tomorrow morning. Then, dumpola.
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08-31-2009, 01:05 PM
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Dumpola. Never started. 8 days. Still, it's an interesting experiment I will try again, with a different Belgian, this Friday.
Any recommendations? I know I can buy yeast. This is an academic exercise.
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08-31-2009, 01:08 PM
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Did you ever just stop your stirplate and see what if anything flocculated down? You know check for sediment?
I have noticed that if my stirplate is going I can't really see any activity, nothing that looks like the remnents of a krauzen, no sediment, nothing. I usually after about 8 hours of spinning, just turn mine off for a few hours to see.
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09-01-2009, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Revvy
Did you ever just stop your stirplate and see what if anything flocculated down? You know check for sediment?
I have noticed that if my stirplate is going I can't really see any activity, nothing that looks like the remnents of a krauzen, no sediment, nothing. I usually after about 8 hours of spinning, just turn mine off for a few hours to see.
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Yea, nothing. I always see a change in color (gets much lighter) with yeast growth.
BTW, like the avatar, Rev. It's my desktop now.
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09-01-2009, 01:19 AM
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Yea, nothing. I always see a change in color (gets much lighter) with yeast growth.
BTW, like the avatar, Rev. It's my desktop now.
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LOL! 
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09-01-2009, 04:12 AM
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I blame Charlie for getting me into this mess.
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