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Old 01-12-2012, 07:50 PM   #1
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So I am trying to tackle the Brown Ale Style. From what I understand they can be hoppy to a point but you should get a "nutty flavor". So I have created a recipe. According to BS I am in the green for style.

Grains
8lbs 2 Row Pale (US)
.75lbs crystal 80L
.25lbs Chocolate Malt

Hops
.5 Magnum @ 60
.5 Teggnang @ 20
.5 Teggnang @ 10
.5 Teggnang @ 5

Other
Irish Moss @ 60

Yeast
White Labs British Ale

Will that grain bill bring out the "Nutty" flavor?. I have tried a commercial brown before and never tasted a "Nutty" flavor (No pun intended) Any suggestions will help.

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Old 01-12-2012, 07:55 PM   #2
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Briess Victory is a toasted malt that has a nutty taste, but any of the various toasted malts would work.

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No, for a "nutty" flavor, you'll want something like victory malt. Chocolate malt is pretty roasty.

Since one of my favorite styles is brown ale, I thought I'd mention that there are several kinds. There is an "American brown" which is like Moose Drool. Then there are Southern English browns, and Northern English browns.

The Southern English browns are described by the BJCP guidelines as: A luscious, malt-oriented brown ale, with a caramel, dark fruit complexity of malt flavor. May seem somewhat like a smaller version of a sweet stout or a sweet version of a dark mild. English brown ales are generally split into sub-styles along geographic lines. Southern English (or “London-style”) brown ales are darker, sweeter, and lower gravity than their Northern cousins. Developed as a bottled product in the early 20th century out of a reaction against vinous vatted porter and often unpalatable mild. Well suited to London’s water supply. Increasingly rare; Mann’s has over 90% market share in Britain. Some consider it a bottled version of dark mild, but this style is sweeter than virtually all modern examples of mild.

The Northern ones are the ones I think of as "nut browns". Here's the BJCP description: Drier and more hop-oriented that southern English brown ale, with a nutty character rather than caramel. English brown ales are generally split into sub-styles along geographic lines.
Profile: Aroma: Light, sweet malt aroma with toffee, nutty and/or caramel notes. A light but appealing fresh hop aroma (UK varieties) may also be noticed. A light fruity ester aroma may be evident in these beers, but should not dominate. Very low to no diacetyl.
Appearance: Dark amber to reddish-brown color. Clear. Low to moderate off-white to light tan head.
Flavor: Gentle to moderate malt sweetness, with a nutty, lightly caramelly character and a medium-dry to dry finish. Malt may also have a toasted, biscuity, or toffee-like character. Medium to medium-low bitterness. Malt-hop balance is nearly even, with hop flavor low to none (UK varieties). Some fruity esters can be present; low diacetyl (especially butterscotch) is optional but acceptable.
Mouthfeel: Medium-light to medium body. Medium to medium-high carbonation.

Now, all that to say that a nut brown will generally have English hops but German hops are ok, too. I really like some victory malt added, and/or some amber malt or biscuit malt.

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@ Yooper, Should I replace the chocolate with victory malt instead? If so how much should I add to get that nutty flavor.

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no, you defiitely want a lil chocolate in a brown (4oz is perfect). either swap the US 2-row with something like marris otter or replace a lil with 0.5lb of victory or biscuit

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no, you defiitely want a lil chocolate in a brown (4oz is perfect). either swap the US 2-row with something like marris otter or replace a lil with 0.5lb of victory or biscuit
Right, you want the chocolate. If anything, take out some of the caramel (although that's a good amount) or just add some victory malt (.25 pound is good).
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Right, you want the chocolate. If anything, take out some of the caramel (although that's a good amount) or just add some victory malt (.25 pound is good).
10-4, I thought about it last night my new grain bill is, 8lbs 2Row, .25 crystal 60, .25 chocolate, .5 victory. all by the pound.

I am brewing this on sunday. I'll post more on brewday about my brown ale adventure.

Update 1-14-2012: So I bought my grains and input it in BS. Now my SRM is low. So after work today I am going to buy more chocolate malt.
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Briess Victory is a toasted malt that has a nutty taste, but any of the various toasted malts would work.
My Brown has to have Victory. When I added it to my recipe it had a huge impact. Mine uses 3.6% Victory. I also like to use flaked oats for extra mouthfeel. I really like WY1450 too.
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So I brewed this up yesterday. Just want to say thanks for the victory malt addition. It is nutty which make me happy. I hope the yeast keeps it malty which I used British Ale. Can't wait to try this ale.

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I made a nut brown with 5% victory. It screams nuts. I like nuts.

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