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Old 01-06-2005, 04:15 PM   #11
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I use the dishwasher on the "sani heat" setting to sterilize clean bottles - this will not do much for bottles which are not clean except maybe bake on some stuff you should be cleaning out.

I have never had a problem with infection as a result of this practice.

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Old 01-06-2005, 07:40 PM   #12
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Interesting. I wondered about the dishwasher. I soaked and cleaned the labels off 24 amstels last night with just hot water and a brillo pad. I then ran them through the dishwasher. I am still going to gie them a dunk in One Step before i bottle on Wednesday. I like the idea of bottling right out of the dishwasher based on your success.

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Old 01-06-2005, 08:19 PM   #13
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My dishwasher seems to have a max temp wash of 65c is this hot enough to sanitize?

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Old 01-06-2005, 10:19 PM   #14
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Technically 100 C is boiling and a sustained boil is needed to kill bacterias/germs. I suggest dunking your bottles in a sanitizing agent, then dishwashering or vice-versa.

65 C will not kill any unwanted nasty things by itself and should not be used alone.

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Old 01-07-2005, 09:22 AM   #15
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Thanks for that, I usually fill my bottles with chempro or similar until required & then swill them twice with tap water with never a problem, but with this talk of dishwashers thought it may be easier. Back to the sink!

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Old 01-10-2005, 09:32 PM   #16
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So what I ended up doing was

  • hour or two soak of bottles in hot water and washing soda the night before bottling
  • easily peel off labels while soaking, scrub any remaining residue with bottle brush
  • soak in bleach for fifteen minutes the morning of
  • rinse a few times and throw em in the dishwasher
  • cook in the dishwasher on antibacterial setting and heated dry
  • bottle directly from dishwasher

The dishwasher option almost seemed like overkill at that point, especially with the 2-hour+ cooking time... but, since it was my first time, I was willing to err a bit on the side of paranoia so as to get a better feel for true tastes in my finished product.

Bottling over the dishwasher was a good idea. I looked at my dad's (a winemaker) bottle-filling gun just before using it (and after soaking in bleach solution) and realized it was completely gunked up, so I bottled with just a tube and my fingers to clamp. The dishwasher door served its purpose.

I'm getting tired of bleach. I want my kitchen smelling like a brewery, not an especially-clean bathroom. If I do Iodophor next time, I'll probably just give em a pull on the bottle-sanitizer the morning of and throw em on the bottle-tree to dry. Still will probably use the dishwasher door to bottle over, just not use the dishwasher to clean the bottles.
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Old 01-10-2005, 09:48 PM   #17
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as to containing any mess, I keep a pile of clean old towels handy and put them down as a kind of absorbent carpet when doing any transfer.

a bottling suggestion - get a bottling cane. It does a LOT to simplify the process at a very reasonable price.

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