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Old 04-29-2010, 02:06 AM   #1
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Default boiling hops w/beer to increase bitterness

So I've got a batch of a Celebration Ale clone (Dean Larson's recipe) that is really fruity/estery and lacks the bitterness and hop punch of Celebration. There's probably about 1/4 of the keg left and I'm thinking of experimenting.

I've never made hop tea, but I'm thinking of boiling some Chinook with 16 oz of the beer itself to gain some bitterness and then steeping some Centennial and Cascade in the same, straining in a french press as others have described and adding to the keg.

The reason I'm thinking about doing this versus boiling/steeping in water is to utilize the lower pH of the beer to avoid tannin extraction from the hops.

Make sense? On one hand it seems like boiling the beer could potentially have a heinous tasting result, but on the other, that's how the beer started, right?

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Old 04-29-2010, 02:09 AM   #2
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Boiling beer doesn't smell bad. It's what I use to cook shrimp. I don't know how it would be with hops though. You could make a small batch of wort with extract to boil the hops in.

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I would drink the rest of the keg and start over...

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Boiling beer doesn't smell bad. It's what I use to cook shrimp. I don't know how it would be with hops though. You could make a small batch of wort with extract to boil the hops in.
i just don't want to add any sugar to it, since it's not going to ferment.
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I would drink the rest of the keg and start over...
always an option! and not a bad one, cause the beer tastes reasonable (most people like it quite a bit, i'm just a bit critical of my own stuff). the reason i want to try this is so, if it works, i'll have a go to option if i end up in the same boat in the future. and i'll have experimented on a small batch and not f'd up a whole keg if the process tanks!
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i just don't want to add any sugar to it, since it's not going to ferment.
Ah, good call. You could ferment out the wort prior to adding.

I guess the best way to test the method you have in mind is to go ahead and boil a small amount of beer and hops and see what happens.
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all the alcohol will be boiled out of the beer you boil with the hops, increasing the FG, and body of the beer, while lowering the alcohol content. These changes would increase the sweetness of the beer, in turn lowering the percieved bitterness.

I think this would cause the entire recipe to become unbalanced, and give you a even less desirable beer then you already have.

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just finish what you have and next time adjust the recipe to accentuate the bitterness that you are looking for.

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OP - FYI - I don't know if you are brewing full boils but if you are boiling 1/2 boils w/ extract be sure to only add half the extract and bring to boil then you will be hopping the same as the final gravity and wont need to add hops to get the same ibu's. add the other half in the last 10 minutes...I did this with great results before I moved to AG full boils.

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Tannins in hops? Where did you get that idea?

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