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Old 04-05-2011, 10:55 AM   #1
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Default Boiling Hops with DME or corn sugar for bottle conditioning

I want to add hop flavor-not bitterness-just before bottling. I could dry hop, but I wanted to try something different.

I usually carbonate with corn sugar, but I was thinking I could make a small batch of hop flavored wort to mix in at bottling.

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Old 04-05-2011, 11:00 AM   #2
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When you say hop flavored wort do you mean water, corn sugar and hops? The longer you boil hops, the more bitterness. I'd dry hop.



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If you want hop flavour then you need to boil it for some time don't you. I thought that dry hopping was all about aroma.

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When you say hop flavored wort do you mean water, corn sugar and hops? The longer you boil hops, the more bitterness. I'd dry hop.
I mean water + corn sugar or dme + hops. I'm more interested in aroma and flavor, not bitterness. Dry hopping is plan A.
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Sounds like an expedient way to bypass dry hopping. I like it.

I imagine if you boil the hops in the priming sugar too long you'll mute the up-front flavors you're seeking. I'd recommend 3-5 minutes, tops.

One other complication: if you boil the hops in the sugar solution, the hops will absorb quite a bit, thus throwing off your calculation for bottle priming.

Perhaps make a separate hop tea and add in the bottling bucket along with your priming sugar?

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If you want hop flavour then you need to boil it for some time don't you. I thought that dry hopping was all about aroma.
It has a HUGE effect on taste as well. The flavors and aromas that are extracted at cold temperatures in beer differ from those extracted at boiling in wort.
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How about a 5 minute, continuously hopped solution of priming sugar? Drop in a few pellets every 30 seconds for 5 minutes.

Don't forget that you'll lose a bunch of liquid to the hops. Maybe you'll want to separate the hops out before adding the priming sugar, just to make sure the batch gets the right amount before bottling.

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I think another thing that would end up happening if you're putting DME as well is increased sediment because you're giving the yeast even more food to munch on besides the corn sugar. Still, if you want to give it a try I say go for it. I'd be curious how the result comes out. Maybe prime a couple bottles regular with just sugar so you have a basis for comparison. Obviously you'll have more hop flavor in the one but still... Experimentation is fun. I rarely follow a recipe exactly. Post results. Cheers!

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It has a HUGE effect on taste as well. The flavors and aromas that are extracted at cold temperatures in beer differ from those extracted at boiling in wort.
I'm using Northern Brewer Hops AA 9.4%. What flavors would you expect from boiling vs dry hopping @60°?
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I would recommend one of two paths:
1) Dry hop--First choice; no drawbacks, gives you good hop flavor/aroma. Should be exactly what you're looking for.
2) Hop tea--Second choice; heating hops will invariably add bitterness (albeit not much, as the boil shortens) and it sounds like you want the flavor, not bitterness.

Given that you want to do something new, I'd still opt for choice 2 over priming hops. Hop extraction is limited by two major factors in brewing: overall volume and concentration of the wort. A priming solution is, by nature, a fairly concentrated sugar solution. This sugar will limit the potency of the hops you use when compared to a standard hop tea. When I prepare a priming solution, I typically try to use as little liquid as possible, such that my overall volume is minimally impacted. The combined aspect of small volume plus high concentration could reduce the amount of "hop" you get from your strategy.

I don't know how significant the difference would be, but I think you'd be happier with the "tea" method if you really want to change things up. That said, I still think dryhopping would be best .



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