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Old 06-30-2007, 10:19 PM   #21
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Well, I'm glad your DIY CFC has held up better than the one I bought. To be fair morebeer.com has stopped selling them because of customer complaints.

This, too is what I do (no-rinse iodophor, not bleach). I still wouldn't call it simple to other chiller sanitizing procedures like Bobby said. You also didn't say how you purge the rinse water out - or do you? This is the other part of getting the CFC ready that annoys me.
Yup, you have to drain into a waste bucket until you get beer, then switch to the fermenter. This is a leg up for the plate chillers... the overall liquid volume is very low both on the wort and cooling sides.

I see claims to the speed of CFC cooling here and there and I want to make it clear that I don't think a gravity fed CFC is any faster than an immersion chiller on 5 gallon batches. The only way this would happen is if you compare "still-wort" immersion chilling. It is true, you need to stir the wort while you cool with an IC. If your ground water is over 70, you'll need icewater pumping or prechilling no matter what so there's no advantage to one chiller or another.

In fact, during the winter when my ground water is 55F, I got 5 gallons to pitching in 8 minutes with an IC. It takes just under 15 minutes to gravity drain though a CFC so the IC has the win there.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:40 PM   #22
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Fair enough. Although I don't have a march pump yet, I do use a wort wizard, so no slow gravity drains for me. I'm completely limited by cooling capacity, and here I do think CFCs/plate chillers have an edge.

It seems like I've been talking a lot about how I don't have a march pump yet. I think this needs to change SOON!

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Fair enough. Although I don't have a march pump yet, I do use a wort wizard, so no slow gravity drains for me. I'm completely limited by cooling capacity, and here I do think CFCs/plate chillers have an edge.

It seems like I've been talking a lot about how I don't have a march pump yet. I think this needs to change SOON!
So I should anticipate you as a competitive bidder on Ebay's next March 809 offering? I'm looking for one now too... I doesn't make sense to get started on a single tier stand when the lack of said pump won't allow brewing. I still have to get all my couplings welded in and find a nice lot of ball valves and quick disconnects.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:02 PM   #24
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I may be a bit daft, but how exactly do you use the immersion chiller to filter the wort out of the keggle?
No problem.

Simply remove your wort chiller when the wort is cool...rinse and then wrap a 5 gallon paint strainer around it and then resubmerge slowly into the wort. Inside the chiiler/strainer, there wil be perfectly clear wort in which you'll dip your racking cane and siphon.

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So I should anticipate you as a competitive bidder on Ebay's next March 809 offering? I'm looking for one now too... I doesn't make sense to get started on a single tier stand when the lack of said pump won't allow brewing. I still have to get all my couplings welded in and find a nice lot of ball valves and quick disconnects.
Could be...

Actually, I've seen some w/ a Buy It Now price of ~ $90. Not sure if they're always available or not, but that doesn't seem like a bad price. Plus, you don't have to worry about someone else out-bidding you.
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No problem.

Simply remove your wort chiller when the wort is cool...rinse and then wrap a 5 gallon paint strainer around it and then resubmerge slowly into the wort. Inside the chiiler/strainer, there wil be perfectly clear wort in which you'll dip your racking cane and siphon.

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BierMuncher - that's a great tip for guys using an immersion chiller! I've seen you post it several times but never given you props.
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BierMuncher - that's a great tip for guys using an immersion chiller! I've seen you post it several times but never given you props.
Thanks LS. I've been getting pretty good mileage out of that one pic. It's the one thing about my AG routine than never changes.
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Gotta say that this has been one of the most educational threads I've read in a while. Thanks guys! Especially the filtering tip. That's pretty slick.

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Could be...

Actually, I've seen some w/ a Buy It Now price of ~ $90. Not sure if they're always available or not, but that doesn't seem like a bad price. Plus, you don't have to worry about someone else out-bidding you.
Yeah, I just got mine - $90 for the pump, and a flat $10 to ship. It arrived well packed and still in the factory sealed box (tate1560 was the seller)
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You also didn't say how you purge the rinse water out - or do you? This is the other part of getting the CFC ready that annoys me.
No need to purge. Just attach the CFC to the boil kettle and run the rinse water out with the first bit of wort. Once the discharge runs pure wort, start filling the fermenter.

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