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Old 05-08-2007, 06:59 PM   #11
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Next up... CYANIDE BEER.. Recipes please?

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Old 05-08-2007, 07:08 PM   #12
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Cancerbrau? Anyone care for a cancerbrau?

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Old 05-08-2007, 07:14 PM   #13
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I'd prefer a Tumorbock please...
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:56 PM   #14
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Hmmm... I don't remember Tomacco being poisonous...



Err... maybe...

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Old 05-09-2007, 10:13 AM   #15
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Instead of ripping on a bad idea, I will try to be positive. Nobody likes the taste of tobacco. Some people do, however, like the flavor of smoke. Soooo....

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You can by smoked malts. You can even make your own on a charcoal grill. Add some wood, smoke the grains over it, keep the heat, I dunno, maybe below 200, let them roast for awhile, then let them sit for two weeks to mellow before using in a brew.

Smoke beer is good. In fact, I had a Smoked Maibock the other day and was quite surprised that I could actually finish a full glass of it. It was tasty. So go ahead, experiment with smoke beers, but nobody likes the taste of nicotine.

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Old 05-09-2007, 10:57 PM   #16
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Toxicology

The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg can be a lethal dosage for adult human beings. This makes it an extremely deadly poison. It is more toxic than many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which has a lethal dose of 1000 mg. The LD50 of cocaine when administered to mice is 95.1 mg/kg.

The amount of nicotine inhaled with tobacco smoke is a fraction of the amount contained in the tobacco leaves (most of the substance is destroyed by the heat). The amount of nicotine absorbed by the body from smoking depends on many factors, including the type of tobacco, whether the smoke is inhaled, and whether a filter is used. For chewing tobacco, often called dip, snuff, or snus, which is held in the mouth between the lip and gum, the amount released into the body tends to be much greater than smoked tobacco.

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I'm no scientist here, but I wouldn't do it. I've heard of tobacco farmers dying because they touched a tobacco plant that had dew on it. I've also heard of inmates making a tea out of 2 packs of cigarettes to commit suicide with.

So, um... DON'T DO IT.
I think people are missing the point here, it would be for the taste not the nicotine, however reading the toxicology of nicotine (thanks for that) it sounds like a bad idea, however, I did make a sun tea using 1/4 oz. of oregon cherry tobacco to a gallon of water and the taste was excellent (surprise surprise), Its been two days and I'm still alive.
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Ask anyone who has either dipped or chewed tobacco and they will tell you that digesting tobacco sap, even in very small amounts, causes nausea. There is a reason they spit! So even if you were to calculate an amount that is non-toxic, it is sure to cause extreme nausea or be such a small amount as to not offer any flavor to the brew. But a neat idea.

If it is the nicotine effect in the brew and not the flavor you're looking to achieve it might be obtainable through the use of a well calculated does of nicorette gum. Although likely way to expensive to be pratical.

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Nicotine gum also causes nausea when used in any appreciable quantity. I speak from experience.

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OP asked about pipe tobacco and flavor.

Isn't most pipe tobacco flavored? Like apple, cherry, etc...

I'd go with that. Nicotine doesn't really have a flavor does it?

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Isn't most pipe tobacco flavored? Like apple, cherry, etc...

I'd go with that. Nicotine doesn't really have a flavor does it?
Yup, it's usually flavored, and pipe tobacco is usually very sweet and pleasant smelling. The smoke carries the flavor well and is also sweet tasting.

Nicotine is an alkaloid, and I bet that the pure substance is quite bitter. However, should you have enough pure nicotine to actually taste it, it would probably be a lethal dose.

To the OP: if the sun tea tasted good and produced no ill effects, you can probably add it to your homebrew as a flavoring. To achieve similar results in a more traditional manner, I bet you could use some cherry (or other flavored) extract and oak chips.
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