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Old 09-01-2006, 12:18 AM   #11
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How do you think they make the corn alcohol they add to gasoline? They make a 10% beer then distill it. That's all it is...plus they add some gas to it so the workers don't drink it.

I've been reading some people have been allowed to distill alcohol when using it as an experimental fuel source.

Check into under those premises.

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Old 09-01-2006, 12:21 AM   #12
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How do you think they make the corn alcohol they add to gasoline? They make a 10% beer then distill it. That's all it is...plus they add some gas to it so the workers don't drink it.

I've been reading some people have been allowed to distill alcohol when using it as an experimental fuel source.

Check into under those premises.
this is true but they want to produce Methyl and ethanol not ethyl. That crap smells really bad.
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Old 09-01-2006, 04:58 AM   #13
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as previously stated illegal in north america use at you own risk
but good info here www.homedistiller.org

As I've posted elsewhere, this site is VERY GOOD b/c it breaks down the basics and everything you'll need to know if you were looking to distill - including how not to go blind. This is definitely the site I'd use if I - er, if a friend of mine - wanted to do some home 'stilling.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:54 AM   #14
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Trick is to throw away the first bit of distillation. The nasty alcohols like methyl have a lower evaporation point than good ol' ethanol. You can buy a tabletop water distiller I've heard that works quite well.

Best is to hold the beer, etc. at a temp just below ethanols evap. point and throw out what condenses. Then raise the temp and you should have pure booze.

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Old 09-01-2006, 08:10 PM   #15
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Distilling is only illegal in the US if you get caught.

I met a guy several months ago who says he distills his beer when ever he doesn't have a good batch, and he said it works well. I had previously heard that you never want to add hops to anything being distilled, but did not ask bring up the subject.

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Old 09-01-2006, 11:58 PM   #16
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Distilling is only illegal in the US if you get caught.
Would that logic apply to rape, murder and theft as well?

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Would that logic apply to rape, murder and theft as well?

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That's hardly an analogy. The only reason home distilling is illegal is because if it was legal, the government would lose billions of dollars in lost tax revenue.

What you are comparing it to are crimes against humanity.
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That's hardly an analogy. The only reason home distilling is illegal is because if it was legal, the government would lose billions of dollars in lost tax revenue.

What you are comparing it to are crimes against humanity.
So what are you are telling me? Is it that crimes that don't hurt anyone are really only crimes if you get caught? Or are you saying that we should only obey laws that we agree with?

I was not making an analogy. I was simply pointing out the obvious flaw in his logic. You are arguing semantics.

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Ease up there a little John... jeez

Yeah, stilling is illegal - whether you get caught or not - but that doesn't mean somebody's an evil person if they do it. Rape, murder, etc. are illegal, too, but rapists and murderers ARE evil people because of what they do.

To get back to the subject at hand, has anyone heard any negative effects of distilling a bad batch. In particular, do the hops or any of the products of "bad fermentation" (like from wild yeast strains or bacteria) produce any nasties that you wouldn't want to distill and drink (other than the methanol which has already been covered)?

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So what are you are telling me? Is it that crimes that don't hurt anyone are really only crimes if you get caught? Or are you saying that we should only obey laws that we agree with?

I was not making an analogy. I was simply pointing out the obvious flaw in his logic. You are arguing semantics.

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????Where did you read into my statement that... "Is it that crimes that don't hurt anyone are really only crimes if you get caught? Or are you saying that we should only obey laws that we agree with?"

I only stated that the government made it illegal to distill alcohol because they would lose a substantial amount of income from the lost taxes.

People HAVE gotten hurt, even killed from distilling alcohol. No one knows because all the accidents are not reported because it's ...cough, cough...illegal to do it.

Yes, please lighten up, John. Focus' point is right on.
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