Advertise Here
Main · BrewSpace · Recipes · Wiki · Groups · Clubs · Gallery · Reviews · Video · Blogs

$10.99 and $13.99 Ball Valve sale from Nor Cal Brewing SolSome FREE Pumps to give away.7% Off Coupon KegCowboy.Com
Go Back   Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Techniques



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-06-2009, 03:08 PM   #1
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 386
Default Alternative method to dry hop?

Has anyone/or could this work:

Used a steeped hop tea to dry hop, say a day or so before bottling or just mixed it up in the bottling bucket with the dextrose? My idea was to take a sanitized mason jar, put some boiling water in there, throw in my hops and put the lid on. Let steep until the temp came down to about 80 or so. Then dumper in...

I am asking b/c I never use a secondary anymore. I pretty much hate using a secondary. I usually just wait for my beer to drop clear and cold condition for a few days if I am using a lower floc strain. As you know, dry hopping in primary is a freakin mess. It ends up looking and acting like incredible hulk took a dump in there, plus you lose a lot of beer! Am I just being lazy or what?
jlpred55 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 04:48 PM   #2
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Posts: 4,012
Blog Entries: 3
Default

Even with putting a lid on that mason jar, you're going to lose a lot of the aroma that dry-hopping is all about. I always just throw whole leaf hops in my primary after fermentation is finished. I put them in a stainless steel mesh ball that works great. It's got more weight that a hop sack, so it doesn't float. Also, you can remove all the hops before bottling and you only lose what little beer was soaked up into the leaves.
__________________
He who drinks beer sleeps well. He who sleeps well cannot sin. He who does not sin goes to heaven.
Suthrncomfrt1884 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 04:52 PM   #3
Cranky Old Guy
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 24,444
Default

I've used hop tea. Your approach will give different results from dryhopping, because you are using heat.

Methods for making aroma/flavor hop tea:

1. Boil in water 5 minutes - much like an aroma add
2. Ditto for 15 - flavor add
3. Your method - flameout add
4. Cold steeping in water or water/alcohol - like dryhopping.
5. Dryhop with some of the beer in a jar. "
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"
david_42 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 04:53 PM   #4
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 286
Default

jlpred55,
If I understand you correctly, I would say that your idea is sound. You may end up with some hop debris in the bottling process but I think this would precipitate out and settle to at the bottom of the bottles along with the yeast dregs. You can go to this link to see how I sort of did what your talking about except using kegs.

Beer Diary...: "Wet" Dry Hop Experiment

mark
Beer Diary...
Brew School Home Pg1
mbird is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 05:00 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
ThickHead's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 769
Default

Why do you hate using a secondary for dry-hopping? What is it that you are trying to avoid?
ThickHead is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 05:10 PM   #6
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 562
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suthrncomfrt1884 View Post
I always just throw whole leaf hops in my primary after fermentation is finished. I put them in a stainless steel mesh ball that works great.
Where do you find a mesh ball that's big enough? All the commercially available "tea balls" I've seen are way too small.
__________________
Best Regards, James
--
My beer blog: http://brewdujour.blogspot.com
My website: http://www.carbon111.com


Fermenting: Carbon's Grizzly Bear, Young's Special London Ale (clone)

Bottled/Conditioning:Siberian Raven Winter Ale, Cherry Tree Porter, Victoria's Dirty Secret

Drinking: Montgomery Scottish Ale, Thames American Bitter, Crow's Beak Old Ale, Bastet Brown, Carbon's Cascade Ale, Red Silo Honey IPA
carbon111 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 08:01 PM   #7
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 386
Default

Yeah the mesh balls I have seen are too small. I could see making a hop taco thing-a-ma-thing out of a piece of SS screen as working.

Thickhead: I hate secondaries because I am lazy......and honest! Sure I will secondary a beer if it is big and needs some age but I make mostly 1.060 and below beers. They ferment out fairly quickly and I usually bottle after 2 weeks. Most strains I use are good little floccers so I don't ever see the need to secondary.

David42. Dryhop with some of the beer in a jar and blend at bottling. That could work I guess.
jlpred55 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 08:19 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
ThickHead's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 769
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jlpred55 View Post
Thickhead: I hate secondaries because I am lazy......and honest! Sure I will secondary a beer if it is big and needs some age but I make mostly 1.060 and below beers. They ferment out fairly quickly and I usually bottle after 2 weeks. Most strains I use are good little floccers so I don't ever see the need to secondary.
Makes sense to me. If you can avoid it, go for it. I guess I like messing with my beer.
ThickHead is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 08:35 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
cercueil's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 237
Default

I was reading up on hop teas for the exact same reason. Didn't feel like using a secondary. I think the tea works to some extent but I think I am going to use the secondary on my next ipa. I may be making this up but when you leave the beer on the hops for a week or so you will probably get better aroma then just creating a tea. My view is that it is sitting on the beer for a long time and will be able to extract more aroma. Maybe someone on here has experimented with hop teas versus dry hopping using the exact amount of hops in each batch? That would be a good experiment I suppose.
__________________
On Tap
King James Squared IPA (Similar to Hopslam)

Up Next
Something Dark for winter?
cercueil is offline Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 10:12 PM   #10
Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Eden Utah
Posts: 78
Default

While there are other inherent problems potentially associated with using a cornie keg as your primary fermenter (some will argue the yeast experiences too much head pressure due to the container dimensions) you might consider using one as your primary. at the end of your ferment you can simply drop in a hop bag full of you dry hops. You can sandwich the dental floss between the lid gasket and it will still keep pressure. I add a few marbles to the bag and suspend the bag with dental floss for the last few few days then pull the bag out and transfer into your bottling bucket, no mess and easy. I actually use this method to dry hop right in my serving keg, I have also fermented in cornies kegs by just covering the opening with tin foil.

Last edited by greggor; 08-06-2009 at 10:16 PM.
greggor is offline Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alternative lautering method? iddqd All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 10-26-2009 08:31 PM
Alternative method to diacetyl rest stoutaholic General Techniques 4 07-03-2009 02:53 AM
late extract with partial mash...an alternative method? BuzzCraft All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 03-13-2009 08:35 PM
Alternative carbing method? ThatFishGuy Bottling/Kegging 12 07-18-2008 07:50 PM
Reusing yeast-simple alternative method? 8string General Techniques 3 03-13-2008 02:17 AM





Contact Us - Top - Privacy - All times are GMT. The time now is 03:24 PM.
Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved